Suitable Inset Gas fire with Phoenix gas

blondie21

We have just had phoenix gas piped to the house and want to get a new gas inset fire that is suitable to run off the piped phoenix gas.
We looked at 2 in B & Q both called "Lulworth Multiflue" the same fire but one said on the box "G31 third Family Propane Gas " and the other box said G20 Second Family Natural Gas "
Tried ringing Phoenix there for help but they are closed.
Can anyone help me out ?
I want to get the fire tomorrow.

Tobyruby

Sorry, can't help with the models, but be careful with the gas fires. They are really expensive to run. I don't have natural gas, just the rip-off LPG supplied by a bunch of cowboys called FloGas. I use my gas fire at Christmas only.

blondie21

I know they are. I have the bottled gas fire ( living flame ) at the minute but i have oil heating as my main heat.It would only be used occassionaly.

dmxdave

Ask the advice of whoever is installing the fire who must be CORGI registered.
Did I make that clear enough? as I understand propane is bottled gas and natural gas is the Pheonix type

blondie21

dmxdave wrote: »

Ask the advice of whoever is installing the fire who must be CORGI registered.
Did I make that clear enough? as I understand propane is bottled gas and natural gas is the Pheonix type

Sorry Dave.....You're assuming I am an imbecile who is unable to understand the words " Must be Corgi registered" - How condesending............
Thanks anyway

dmxdave

blondie21 wrote: »

Sorry Dave.....You're assuming I am an imbecile who is unable to understand the words " Must be Corgi registered" - How condesending............

Thanks anyway

Def Not I would not assume anything not even from your screen name :rotfl:

It was a general comment not aimed at you personally

What i was getting at is a lot of people seem to think a gas fire is like a leccy one, you just buy it and plug it in!

Colombo_2

I assume that you are living in Northern Ireland and have a meter fitted by Phoenix Natural Gas.

You need a natural gas appliance, but it must be fitted by a Corgi Registered Installer. You will need a suitable chimney or flue that may need a flue liner. You may also need a ventilator because gas needs air.

Flogas does not rip you off by the way, it is just that propane is a very expensive fuel as it has manufactured from oil and transported by road from the refineries.

Natural gas is the best choice for home heating if you can get a piped supply. There are engineers working at present to bring gas to every town in Ireland.

blondie21

Phoenix have run the pipes into our property. There is a flue as we have a living flame gas fire in at the minute.
I would not dream of having it installed by anyone other than a Corgi Registered Engineer.
I will be keeping my oil heating in the house so its just really an extra in our main Lounge.

dmxdave

blondie21 wrote: »

Sorry Dave.....You're assuming I am an imbecile who is unable to understand the words " Must be Corgi registered" - How condesending............

Thanks anyway

As I posted before this is not a dig at you just trying to point out how serious this can be!

Quote from HSE

The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) has issued a warning to the public to only allow CORGI registered gas installers to work on their appliances. E very year approximately 25 people die from carbon monoxide poisoning caused by gas appliances and flues that have not been properly installed or maintained.

belfastgirl23

To echo what Dave says, we used our gas fire most of one winter (and we are still paying the bill for it but that's another story!). One night I started feeling really woozy and sick and wasn't sure what was going on. DH in his enthusiasm for keeping down drafts had put a rug over the ventilation shaft. It also made me feel sleepy and I do worry if we had dropped off what could have happened. Just saying it because it did give me quite a fright! And we live in an old and quite drafty house so not at nearly as much risk as people in new insulated houses.