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  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    cajef wrote: »
    Hmm it does seem to very ambiguous, just out of interest I have trawled through various sites trying to find a definitive answer

    What is ambiguous? What question are you trying to answer? Be specific! The example from the TV isn't much help without all the facts. What were the fine and points given for? How many points did the driver get? :confused:
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  • You can receive a sixty pound fine from police for failing to display your tax disc.

    Other than that it's DVLA who prosecute.
  • came up again this week

    You can receive a sixty pound fine from police for failing to display your tax disc. :confused:

    my question

    As for failing to display:

    You cannot be guilty of
    Displaying something that you do not have.:confused: .
  • molerat
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    came up again this week

    You can receive a sixty pound fine from police for failing to display your tax disc. :confused:

    my question

    As for failing to display:

    You cannot be guilty of
    Displaying something that you do not have.:confused: .
    There are then 2 offences committed. one .... failing to display and two .... failing to maintain continuous registration / sorn and possibly three ... using an unlicensed vehicle on the public highway.
  • Ms_Chocaholic
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    With regard to the tax disc, when my OH had a company car, the tax blew out of an open window (honestly it did) and he was advised to put a note to this effect on the windscreen, stating that the DVLA had been advised and were re-issuing it.
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  • chris147 wrote: »
    If he didn't receive anything from the Police at the time then nothing will happen.

    They may however submit what is called a CLE2/6 which informs DVLA that the car has been stopped on the road and that no tax was in force for it.

    This could lead to DVLA prosecuting either your OH and/or the company that own it. Sorry!

    Sorry I haven't got time to read the whole thread but this remark is accurate, a CLE2/6 will have been submitted and is sent to the DVLA, there will be a fine but it will go to the keeper of the vehicle NOT the driver.
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  • Ignore the last just noticed the date of the thread duh!!!
    Married 1st October 2015:heartpuls

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  • Chesnut1 wrote: »
    Looking for some help please, my OH was pulled today for not having road tax in the works van he was driving. It is not his usual van as his is being repaired. He knows that it is the companies responsibility to pay but he was wondering if the Dundee Police will fine him anything or points on licence? With the van he uses he always has to chase them as they do not bother but in this case the one thing he did not check was the road tax, he is even worrying about the MOT now as he has no access to any of the vehicles documents! He did have a row with one of the bosses as they wanted to blame him but they have since phoned to apologise admiting they were at fault. They have now road taxed it BUT he will have to drive the van to work tomorow to get the disc which is 20 miles away. They are refusing to deliver it and he is understandably not happy. So my long winded question is will he get a fine and or points for today and what about the implications of possibly being caught tomorow driving to get the new disc. All help much appreciated. Oh and yes he knows he should have looked at the disc but his van broke down this van was dropped off to him and he was keen to get to the stranded customers who were overdue to be seen. A lesson he is now learnt by putting himself first in future. Many thanks.

    So if the said van had bald tyres and was involved in running someone over - who would be to blame...?!

    Yes, the driver.

    It's the drivers responsibility to make sure that his/her/heshe/shim's ve-hickle is fit for use. ie checking tyres, lights, wipers, fluid levels, road tax and insurance etc.

    If I drive a car unfamiliar to me I always have a glance around it.
  • If I may step in here and say

    1 - Road tax has nothing to do with the Police. The police merely notify the DVLA if they come across a vehicle without any road tax, failing to display road tax etc

    2 - It is not a ''criminal offence'' per se to drive a vehicle with no road tax. I.e the Police will not deal with it.

    3 - Insurance - the onus is on the driver to make sure he has insurance for the vehicle and on the Registered Keeper or Owner to make sure that if they have no insurance for said driver, that said driver has his own. If neither has insurance then the driver will be prosecuted for having no insurance and should they so wish, the Registered Keeper or Owner may be prosecuted for the offence of Use, Cause, Permit.

    4 - Vehicle roadworthiness is solely the responsibility of the driver at the time to do a P.O.W.D.E.R check and ensure that the vehicle is safe to drive.

    Hope this helps!!

    Oh and before I forget...It does not invalidate your insurance, not having or failing to display a Tax Disc......
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  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite

    4 - Vehicle roadworthiness is solely the responsibility of the driver at the time to do a P.O.W.D.E.R check and ensure that the vehicle is safe to drive.

    dont you mean PUWER? provision use and work equiptment regulations.
    what does powder stand for?
    ...work permit granted!
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