'Hugh's Chicken Run' A Moral Dilemna for DFWs?

JoeHel

Smidster wrote: »

As I said on my living for free diary while of course in an ideal world the birds would be treated better I am really against this latest campaign to make us all feel guilty and just wish that the likes of JO would go away and let us live our lives in peace.

Live in "peace", or "ignorance", Smidster?

Nobody is forcing us to buy something we don't want. They are just educating us on how things are so we can make an informed decision as to what we buy.

boredofbeingathome

To add, we also had a free range chicken for tea tonight. We were one of the fortunate one's to get it before they sold out,as well as the free range eggs, from my local farm shop. The message is getting across although there no doubt will be a price hike because of this. The difference is quite significant, hardly any wastage- planning a rissotto tomorrow as shown on the prog, but apart from that there was little water, no weird bubbling under the skin, no hock burns- nice white tender meat!! ooh i could eat it all over again and as an added bonus hubby washed up- bliss

pania

No Bee hbl, I just stand up for what I believe in. Tried to make my post balanced and reasonable and not a rant.
I appreciate you clarifying your point of view and i think we are both singing from the same sheet with regards our viewpoints.

I think to be honest the industry will suffer in a minor way for a while as a result of this, but to be honest it's only those at the end of the line that will suffer. Mr Tesco will still get his money, Mr Abatoir will still get his money, Mr farmer won't. but after a while people will "forget" again and go back to spending more. It's a sad fact that not buying something is the only influence we, as public members of the EU can have nowadays.

Thanks for your post. :-)

boredofbeingathome

ZTD wrote: »

And even if you do avoid them, they change the recipe and they come back in. However...Iceland try to avoid them for you, and their stuff is often quite cheap in that department.

i didn't know that about iceland as i very rarely shop there, but will have a look as my son is a biscuit fiend and i try not buy anything with hydrogenated oils in, also although i do homemade- they are scoffed too quickly. at least it helps the diet if i buy less biscuits and ice creams.

hbl_2

pania wrote: »

No Bee hbl, I just stand up for what I believe in. Tried to make my post balanced and reasonable and not a rant.
I appreciate you clarifying your point of view and i think we are both singing from the same sheet with regards our viewpoints.

I think to be honest the industry will suffer in a minor way for a while as a result of this, but to be honest it's only those at the end of the line that will suffer. Mr Tesco will still get his money, Mr Abatoir will still get his money, Mr farmer won't. but after a while people will "forget" again and go back to spending more. It's a sad fact that not buying something is the only influence we, as public members of the EU can have nowadays.

Thanks for your post. :-)

Good point about people 'forgetting' again. It might not a case of forgetting per ce, just that something else comes along. People have short attention spans.

Also, it's the only choice we have in a liberal democratic capitalist society, not sure what the EU has to do with it? The cogs didn't invent the machine after all. Anyway wasn't it Churchill who said that liberal democracy is the worst form of goverment, except for all the others?

ZTD

pania wrote: »

I think to be honest the industry will suffer in a minor way for a while as a result of this, but to be honest it's only those at the end of the line that will suffer. Mr Tesco will still get his money, Mr Abatoir will still get his money, Mr farmer won't. but after a while people will "forget" again and go back to spending more.

The cynic in me says: The major supermarkets want a big shift to free-range because it's a higher margin product.

The bigger cynic in me says that in two days time, we'll be seeing supermarket "free-range" with hock-burns.

Now we just need the "farm shops" promotion, and Mr T won't get his money and the farmer will and food miles will drop.

SarahNeedle1872

Just thought I'd pop in to say that I'm really enjoying reading this thread, I couldn't face watching the program! I have asked OH which is the best butcher in town, so will be finding out all the info re sourcing/prices from them, and I already buy free range eggs.
I had to deal with a complaint from a customer today, as we'd sold out of all our free range chickens..... she was saying that we should get better supplies etc etc etc and it got me thinknig........ *if* for arguments sake, everyone started buying free range, would the farmers not be almost 'forced' into more intensive farming methods for those birds too? - I'm not saying we should not buy free range because of this, just got me thinking......

Great thread Rog!

ZTD

hbl wrote: »

Also, it's the only choice we have in a liberal democratic capitalist society,

I would have thought that "vote" thing along with our ever-helpful representatives would have been the choice of choice as it were.

Though that does depend how you define liberal democratic capitalist society.

pania

oh shoot, I didn't PM you sarah!!!! sorry!! PMing now!

hbl_2

ZTD wrote: »

I would have thought that "vote" thing along with our ever-helpful representatives would have been the choice of choice as it were.

Though that does depend how you define liberal democratic capitalist society.

The system is a liberal democracy and capitalist no matter who you vote for.