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Selling a house I rent out

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I ahve a 4 bedroomed cottage that I rent out and have done for 3 years. The present occupier has been there for 18 months, nearly, on a revolving 6 month contract.
Having spent a considerable amount on it in the last 2 years, I have decided its time to sell on, not a good time I know, but as the tenants are a decent if not perfect family, is there any groups, agencies who sell rented accomodation, who aren't rip off merchants?
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  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
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    malaxim wrote: »
    I ahve a 4 bedroomed cottage that I rent out and have done for 3 years. The present occupier has been there for 18 months, nearly, on a revolving 6 month contract.
    Having spent a considerable amount on it in the last 2 years, I have decided its time to sell on, not a good time I know, but as the tenants are a decent if not perfect family, is there any groups, agencies who sell rented accomodation, who aren't rip off merchants?
    i would suggest you mae an offer to family see if they wanna buy and also if you sell get it stipulated that the family can stay


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  • dolce_vita
    dolce_vita Posts: 1,031 Forumite
    You can sell it with tenants in situ through the normal channels.

    But any potential buyers would be looking for a significant discount.
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    #1. The people that run these "sell your house and rent back" companies are generally lying thieves and are best avoided

    #2. This time next year house prices in general will be lower than they are now

    #3. Cheap houses are a good thing not a bad thing
  • hearts
    hearts Posts: 1,191 Forumite
    dolce_vita wrote: »
    You can sell it with tenants in situ through the normal channels.

    But any potential buyers would be looking for a significant discount.


    Why would they be looking for discount? The yield might be very high ;-) and it may be a great investment.
  • takoo
    takoo Posts: 260 Forumite
    Hi Malaxim

    If you want an estata agent choose a firm where the partners /directors are members of :
    • a professional body
    • the Estate Agents Ombudsman (ES)) scheme.
    As professional estate agents they will have:
    • professional indemnity insurance
    • client's accounts
    • education and training in property metters
    • an in-house complaints procedure
    • if latter unsatisfactory the professional body's complaints procedure
    • confirm your instructions in writing (should do so!).
    Also you have recourse to the independent ESO scheme.

    Selling the freehold (?) house as an investment rather than with vacant possession (VP) will most probably result in lower prices being obtained in the marketing process.
    The tenant (as a "special purchaser") may be willing to pay more than the investment value and even go to the VP value.

    Finally, if there is any "development potential" (big garden..?) you may get more by selling with VP and an outline planning permission.

    Good luck

    Takoo
  • dolce_vita
    dolce_vita Posts: 1,031 Forumite
    hearts wrote: »
    Why would they be looking for discount? The yield might be very high ;-) and it may be a great investment.


    Buying properties with sitting tenants is quite a niche market, generally overlooked by your average BTLer.

    It is generally perceived (rightly or wrongly) that doing so is riskier than starting with an empty property.

    Additionally, for the present owners (the OP in this case) to evict their tenants first takes time and money. Then they will usually have to spend more money redecorating, laying new carpets, maybe a new kitchen, doing the garden up etc.... before they can sell the place.

    And all that is often reflected in lower prices for properties with sitting tenants.




    (but of course, as an experienced "proberdee" investor, you knew that anyway didn't you? )

    :p
    dolce vita's stock reply templates

    #1. The people that run these "sell your house and rent back" companies are generally lying thieves and are best avoided

    #2. This time next year house prices in general will be lower than they are now

    #3. Cheap houses are a good thing not a bad thing
  • malaxim
    malaxim Posts: 22 Forumite
    A brief survey of local estate Agents leaves me with the conclusion I'd be lucky to pick up 60% of its last property valuation.
    That seems steeper tyhan i thought in such a scenario, although it was in most cases from 'experts' in this field who were known to the Agents I spoke to
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    Lenders will usually refuse to go ahead with a mortgage on a property without vacant possession.

    If the family are decent tenants they will soon find somewhere else to live.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • Biggie
    Biggie Posts: 370 Forumite
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    EdInvestor wrote: »
    Lenders will usually refuse to go ahead with a mortgage on a property without vacant possession.

    If the family are decent tenants they will soon find somewhere else to live.

    True unless it's a B2Let in which case they just want to see the AST agreement.
  • dolce_vita
    dolce_vita Posts: 1,031 Forumite
    malaxim wrote: »
    A brief survey of local estate Agents leaves me with the conclusion I'd be lucky to pick up 60% of its last property valuation.
    That seems steeper tyhan i thought in such a scenario, although it was in most cases from 'experts' in this field who were known to the Agents I spoke to


    Which is what I told you in post #3 and explained in post #6
    dolce vita's stock reply templates

    #1. The people that run these "sell your house and rent back" companies are generally lying thieves and are best avoided

    #2. This time next year house prices in general will be lower than they are now

    #3. Cheap houses are a good thing not a bad thing
  • alan44
    alan44 Posts: 36 Forumite
    The key here is what the yield is on your new sale price, which I assume is more than you paid for it (your current yield). Yield = (monthly rent * 1200) / purchase price.

    It would need to be more that 6% minimum to interest any sensible investor.

    If it's less than that you need to get them out, which is not as difficult as you might think. In fact if they're decent people and you treat them properly, you shouldn't need to go to court. You will need to have them out before people make offers really.

    I've bought a tennanted property before now, and getting a mortgage wasn't a problem. The only worry is the quality of tenant though, as you haven't found them yourself. On the plus side you don't need to furnish it, and get rent from day 1.
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