IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

OPS IAS appeal rejected.

2»

Comments

  • ParkingMad
    ParkingMad Posts: 472
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    edited 11 October at 8:04AM

    According to this FOI request to BHCC, Denman Place is included on the parking enforcement contract with OPS.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/parking_charge_notices_issued_by_16#incoming-3373471

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 166,716
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite

    So there is no keeper liability possible.

    Can we see the NTK please, both sides.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • 53318.jpg 53319.jpg

    The notice to keeper

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 166,716
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite

    Oh yes, completely non-POFA worded.

    Driver liability only because as @ParkingMad pointed out, this site is under statutory control so it is not 'relevant land' (i.e. it doesn't fall under Schedule 4 of PoFA).

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Thank you what does that mean is it likely that they will bring it to court and if so do I have to answer who was the driver?

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 166,716
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite

    Sorry I'm packing for holiday. I'm away!

    Stop worrying about this. It means they cannot pursue you as keeper, as we already said

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Car1980
    Car1980 Posts: 3,767
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Forumite

    The argument seems to be they were not parked but unloading and loading. The acts of loading/unloading and parking are not mutually exclusive. One must first park to load. The terms make no exception for loading or unloading. The Courts have determined that vehicles stationary on private land are parked within the meaning of the signage, irrespective of the period parked and factors such as whether the driver remains in the vehicle or the engine remains running. On the basis of the evidence provided, I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked on this occasion and his assertion to the contrary is not accepted.

    Liar Level: Elite

    Boris Johnson Tier.

★ ★ ★ Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 355.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 255K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 456.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 248.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 606.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 179K Life & Family
  • 263.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.