UK Passport Expiry

philng

I have a UK PP issue date 22 Dec 2016 & Expiry 22 July 27. Looking at both Europe & Caribbean holidays before Dec 26. ill my PP be valid 100% or not?

Exodi

Due to the Schengen rules, for travelling to Europe, you should consider your effective expiry date as 10 years from issue (e.g. 22 Dec 2016). Furthermore, you must have at least 3 months remaining after your planned departure date (e.g. you shouldn't plan a holiday departing later than the 22 Sep 2026).

For the Caribbean you're fine to go by the printed expiry date, but will still need to ensure you have 3-6 months validity past your arrival date.

MyRealNameToo

The EU will consider your passport to be expiring 22 Dec 2026 as the only recognise a maximum of 10 years. You will need to say your travel dates to the EU to see if it will be acceptable or not. The caribbean will consider its expiry to be the date it gives but you may need to meet a minimum duration requirements depending on which country you are going to

MattMattMattUK

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6681781/uk-passport-expiry

Your passport is only classed as valid for ten years from the date of issue for the EU and must have at least three months remaining after your planned date of return. The Caribbean depends on which nation, but usually six months validity from arrival or from your intended departure date, they will however accept a passport that expires more than ten years after issue.

In reality it makes more sense to just get a new passport.

Woodstok2000

For the EU/Schengen area your passport must have been issued less than 10 years before your date of entry, and be valid 3 months after you leave.

As long as you enter the EU before 22 Dec 26, youll be OK. You won't be able to stay beyond 22 Apr 27.

Caribbean countries vary - where were you thinking? The foreign Office website has guidance broken down by country which may be useful.

Woodstok2000

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82122803#Comment_82122803

I don't think thats right for the 3 month rule. Its 3 months past your departure from the EU, so OP could enter the EU up to December 2026, and stay there until April 2027

Exodi

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82122822#Comment_82122822

I don't think this is correct? AIUI the 3 month requirement is meant as a safety buffer - e.g. if a person is delayed leaving, e.g. hospitalised, arrested, travel disruptions, etc and gets stuck in the EU. If we are both in agreement that the effective expiry date in the EU is Dec 2026, and the 3 months is counted from your planned departure date from the EU, I don't understand how you arrived at the conclusion that someone would be allowed to enter the EU up to Dec 2026 and stay until April 2027 with an effectively expired passport (and that's not even considering the 3 months extra required)? I don't think the EU airport would not allow you to fly back with an expired passport (not that I think you'd get that far, as you'd be prevented from flying out to begin with).

eskbanker

@Woodstok2000 is correct, in that the EU has two entirely separate checks - entry into the EU has to be within ten years of issue date, but exit from the EU has to be at least three months before the (stated and unadjusted) expiry date. The expiry date shown on the passport is recognised for the latter check, rather than being redefined to ten years from issue…

If you are a national from a country outside the EU wishing to visit or travel within the EU, you will need a valid passport and possibly a visa. Your passport should be valid for at least 3 months after the date you intend to leave the EU and it must have been issued within the last 10 years. This means your travel document must have been issued within the previous 10 years the day you enter the EU on condition that it is valid until the end of your stay plus an additional 3 months.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_en.htm

eskbanker

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6681781/uk-passport-expiry

Just to reiterate, you need to be specific about exactly which countries you plan to visit, not just for the Caribbean but also Europe, since much (but far from all) of Europe is within the EU's Schengen area, which has consistent rules that may not be mirrored elsewhere.

A good place to start is the Foreign Office site, where the entry requirements for each country are listed, usually with links to the relevant country's published policy:

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice

Exodi

I stand corrected @Woodstok2000, every day's a school day!

Woodstok2000

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82122909#Comment_82122909

That's why I love these boards - I'm always learning!