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Protecting a Vacant Property from frost damage over cold months

DoneWorking
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This is an update from my previous post from December 2025

A friend is trying to sell a vacant property.

It's unlikely the sale will complete until Spring 2027.

He has vacant property insurance .

He is trying to decide on what to do to prevent frost damage and burst pipes over the cold months beginning in Autumn 2026

Plus avoid issues related to dampness.

Option 1

Drain everything down and leave heating off

Option 2

Drain taps and mains water and leave gas boiler running 24/7

TRVs set to 2 or 3

There is no room thermostat

Option 3

Leave mains water on

And boiler setup as option 2

It's a small 2 bedroom terrace with people living on both sides

Which option seems best

The energy cost for running the boiler on those settings is about £140 per month

He lives near the property so can visit anytime.

He doesn't have a remote temp or elec supply monitor connection to his phone

But can see the energy use each day for the prior 24 hour period

IE on Friday morning he can see Wednesdays energy use

Should he ask the heating engineer to provide a wireless thermometer

Currently there is just a mechanical clock on the boiler with tags to set on off periods for the boiler

Thanks

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  • user1977
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    What does his insurance say about it? I would be inclined to turn off and drain.

  • DoneWorking
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    Either drain system or keep home at a set temperature if water supply not drained

  • horsewithnoname
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    set it to about ten degrees. But best is to ask the insurance company

  • WIAWSNB
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    edited 24 August at 7:28AM

    It largely comes down to whether he wants to spend money or not. Or cost vs hassle.

    Most unoccupied policies state a min of 15oC, afaIk, so that won't be cheap. If you wish to reduce the risk of mould and mustiness, the property should be trickle-ventilated too, so that's more heat loss and waste energy.

    The alternative, as FreeBear describes, should achieve the same end result, but at no cost other than a plumber to refill and test the system. I would add, tho', that for the heating off/drain down option, to doubly make sure the house is ventilated - every single window cracked to 'vent', and internal doors wide open.

    There is also a small but ongoing risk that a pipe or fitting just 'leaks' for no good reason, and a drained-down system would not only be less likely to do this, but not suffer a loss if it did. (I once had water come through my dining room ceiling when the plastic nut on the upstairs toilet's inlet valve spontaneously split.)

    If the boiler is a heat-only type, with a small header tank in the loft, then I'd definitely say 'shut everything down and drain down fully', as you'd have to keep the mains on for that type, and a leak in the CH system would get replenished and could cause a big mess. A sealed or combi system has a limited water capacity, so far less likely to cause 'damage' if it leaks, and it can be run without the mains being on.

  • DoneWorking
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    edited 24 August at 9:25AM

    Thanks for all comments

    I'm going to suggest the following

    Ensure boiler is topped up to correct pressure during the boiler service next week

    Turn off mains water supply.

    Drain hot and cold taps and leave taps open

    Leave notices to inform people not to adjust taps or stopcock.

    Pre Cold Weather Period

    Get a quote for a wireless thermostat for boiler and install before cold weather kicks in

    Set thermostat to fire up boiler when room gets too cold

    What temp would be best

    Where should he site this wireless thermostat

    What should he set TRVs to

  • FreeBear
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    What temp would be best

    Where should he site this wireless thermostat

    What should he set TRVs to

    TRVs should all be set to max - This will reduce the tendency for the boiler to short cycle as well as keeping the entire property at a consistent temperature. Some boilers have a parameter that limit the number of starts per hour to help with the short cycling problem.

    Thermostat is traditionally sited in the hallway. If the property were occupied, many people take it in to the room they use most.

    Unoccupied property, anywhere from 10°C to 15-16°C. Lower end will prevent frost damage, higher end will limit condensation (but no eliminate it completely).

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  • DoneWorking
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    So

    Set thermostat to maintain say 15 degrees C

    Set flow temp at 50 degrees C

    Set TVRs at max

    Will this set up use a lot of energy

  • user1977
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    I've lived in places where a constant temperature of 15 would have been luxury, it seems over the top if all you're trying to do is keep all the pipework above zero.

  • FreeBear
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    edited 24 August at 6:28PM

    With a fairly modern condensing boiler (especially if it does modulation), it shouldn't use a huge amount of gas. Using a timer to limit the boiler running to a couple or three hours a day will reduce consumption even further.

    Bottom line - It depends on the exact make/model/year of the boiler. Something that should have been asked on the first page.

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    Erik Aronesty, 2014

    Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.
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