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Protecting a Vacant Property from frost damage over cold months
This is an update from my previous post from December 2025
A friend is trying to sell a vacant property.
It's unlikely the sale will complete until Spring 2027.
He has vacant property insurance .
He is trying to decide on what to do to prevent frost damage and burst pipes over the cold months beginning in Autumn 2026
Plus avoid issues related to dampness.
Option 1
Drain everything down and leave heating off
Option 2
Drain taps and mains water and leave gas boiler running 24/7
TRVs set to 2 or 3
There is no room thermostat
Option 3
Leave mains water on
And boiler setup as option 2
It's a small 2 bedroom terrace with people living on both sides
Which option seems best
The energy cost for running the boiler on those settings is about £140 per month
He lives near the property so can visit anytime.
He doesn't have a remote temp or elec supply monitor connection to his phone
But can see the energy use each day for the prior 24 hour period
IE on Friday morning he can see Wednesdays energy use
Should he ask the heating engineer to provide a wireless thermometer
Currently there is just a mechanical clock on the boiler with tags to set on off periods for the boiler
Thanks
Comments
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What does his insurance say about it? I would be inclined to turn off and drain.
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Either drain system or keep home at a set temperature if water supply not drained
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set it to about ten degrees. But best is to ask the insurance company
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Drain taps and mains water and leave gas boiler running 24/7
TRVs set to 2 or 3
There is no room thermostat
Good grief. A basic wired thermostat can be had for less than £20, and a Tado smart thermostat/timer for about £100 (plus installation). That would make a significant saving in heating cost and boost the EPC by a couple of points. Really no excuse, even if the property is being sold.
With a decent timer & thermostat, leaving the heating to turn on for a couple of hours in the morning & evening to say 16-17°C would keep the place dry and drive off any condensation. If a smart thermostat were to be fitted, you could set a baseline temperature of 10°C which would stop pipes freezing.
Oh, and leave all the TRVs set to max. Especially with a smaller property, having TRVs shutting off radiators can increase the propensity for the boiler to short cycle which kills efficiency. Also worth turning the flow temperature down to 60°C (or perhaps 50°C depending on the size of radiators).
If you can't/won't fit a decent thermostat & timer, drain the heating & hot water down along with the cold water pipes. Turn the gas off as well, and fix big signs everywhere warning that the CH and water has been drained. Leave a bottle of corrosion inhibitor next to the boiler as an additional warning sign (will be needed when the system is refilled).
Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
Erik Aronesty, 2014
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.5 -
It largely comes down to whether he wants to spend money or not. Or cost vs hassle.
Most unoccupied policies state a min of 15oC, afaIk, so that won't be cheap. If you wish to reduce the risk of mould and mustiness, the property should be trickle-ventilated too, so that's more heat loss and waste energy.
The alternative, as FreeBear describes, should achieve the same end result, but at no cost other than a plumber to refill and test the system. I would add, tho', that for the heating off/drain down option, to doubly make sure the house is ventilated - every single window cracked to 'vent', and internal doors wide open.
There is also a small but ongoing risk that a pipe or fitting just 'leaks' for no good reason, and a drained-down system would not only be less likely to do this, but not suffer a loss if it did. (I once had water come through my dining room ceiling when the plastic nut on the upstairs toilet's inlet valve spontaneously split.)
If the boiler is a heat-only type, with a small header tank in the loft, then I'd definitely say 'shut everything down and drain down fully', as you'd have to keep the mains on for that type, and a leak in the CH system would get replenished and could cause a big mess. A sealed or combi system has a limited water capacity, so far less likely to cause 'damage' if it leaks, and it can be run without the mains being on.
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Thanks for all comments
I'm going to suggest the following
Ensure boiler is topped up to correct pressure during the boiler service next week
Turn off mains water supply.
Drain hot and cold taps and leave taps open
Leave notices to inform people not to adjust taps or stopcock.
Pre Cold Weather Period
Get a quote for a wireless thermostat for boiler and install before cold weather kicks in
Set thermostat to fire up boiler when room gets too cold
What temp would be best
Where should he site this wireless thermostat
What should he set TRVs to
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What temp would be best
Where should he site this wireless thermostat
What should he set TRVs to
TRVs should all be set to max - This will reduce the tendency for the boiler to short cycle as well as keeping the entire property at a consistent temperature. Some boilers have a parameter that limit the number of starts per hour to help with the short cycling problem.
Thermostat is traditionally sited in the hallway. If the property were occupied, many people take it in to the room they use most.
Unoccupied property, anywhere from 10°C to 15-16°C. Lower end will prevent frost damage, higher end will limit condensation (but no eliminate it completely).
Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
Erik Aronesty, 2014
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.2 -
So
Set thermostat to maintain say 15 degrees C
Set flow temp at 50 degrees C
Set TVRs at max
Will this set up use a lot of energy
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I've lived in places where a constant temperature of 15 would have been luxury, it seems over the top if all you're trying to do is keep all the pipework above zero.
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With a fairly modern condensing boiler (especially if it does modulation), it shouldn't use a huge amount of gas. Using a timer to limit the boiler running to a couple or three hours a day will reduce consumption even further.
Bottom line - It depends on the exact make/model/year of the boiler. Something that should have been asked on the first page.
Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
Erik Aronesty, 2014
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.0
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