Landlord trying to deal with tenants' problem neighbours

WIAWSNB

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82078077#Comment_82078077

You are probably right. But if the tenant collects evidence of harassment, then the LA will act - or you can oblige them to.

Ditto with the police - if I catch my neighb repeating an act of criminal damage - now I've set up CCTV - I will insist the police charge him. And I'd escalate that if needed.

You have to hand the situation to the authorities on a plate, tho' - and I understand that.

brianposter

Perhaps try a direct approach - "You appear to be upsetting my tenant - do you want me to find a tenant who really understands about upsetting neighbours ?"

dllive

Thanks all for your comments. Very helpful and useable comments in there.

I had a thought last night: Is there much merit in asking a lawyer to write up a Cease and Desist, or similar? Probably pointless or someone would have mentioned it by now.

Yorkie1

Cease and Desist is usually a term of art from US dramas … !

WIAWSNB

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82081519#Comment_82081519

If you do that, you'll need to follow it up. So consider carefully how you - your tenant - would do this.

We don't actually know how 'serious' this is - the content of these nuisance calls, how they have the number, etc. But I presume pretty serious if they called the cops.

So, personally, I'd accumulate evidence - hand the neighbour enough rope.

Titus_Wadd

We've just been advised today by the Police to write a letter to our neighbour from hell, advising him that we don't want him filming us on a daily basis. That is required otherwise their defence to claims of harassment or ASB would be they didn't realise. Is ignorance of the law and social etiquette a defence?

This is just one facet of 8 years of varied "behaviour" including criminal damage and assault. Curiously the police wrote to him regarding the vandalism, to pre-empt the "unaware of it" defence but for the assault with a garden tool that step wasn't a requirement. You kinda get a feel for how your community police team deals with stuff and you have to work within that local "framework", but they still sometimes throw a curveball and us writing a letter is a new one! It's very been a spectacular sh!show trying to get the police or council to do anything. Our ASB has 200+ incidents, many with crime numbers but no action because they can't construct a harassment case to save their lives.

Anyone any tips on getting updates from coppers that make any sense? The Harm Model and Victim Code are just serving suggestions it seems!

Alex_thompson

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6676969/landlord-trying-to-deal-with-tenants-problem-neighbours

It sounds like you've already taken some sensible first steps. I'd encourage your tenant to keep a detailed log of every incident, including dates, times, photos or videos where appropriate, and any reference numbers from the police. That kind of evidence can be really helpful if the situation continues.

If the noise and other issues are ongoing, it may also be worth contacting the local council's environmental health or anti-social behaviour team, as they can sometimes help with persistent nuisance. Hopefully things can be resolved before it gets any further

WIAWSNB

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82085449#Comment_82085449

If they don't act when there's clearly enough for them to have done so, then go 'formal' with the police, and ultimately to the Commissioner.