Help Identifying Replacement Pan for Traditional High-Level Pull Flush Toilet

sujsuj

I have this high-level toilet pan that needs to be replaced due to a crack and general wear. Because this is a traditional item, I want to make sure I purchase the correct replacement.

Can anyone suggest the exact name or model I should be looking for? I would like to keep the existing pull flush mechanism and other components as they are, both to control costs and to preserve the character of my farmhouse.

I have attached some photos of the toilet from the outside for reference.

anniecave

Do a google image search on your first photo - AI says its a Victorian/Edwardian style and the google search results show some images from shops selling similar items

Section62

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6676674/help-identifying-replacement-pan-for-traditional-high-level-pull-flush-toilet

I have this high-level toilet pan that needs to be replaced due to a crack and general wear. Because this is a traditional item, I want to make sure I purchase the correct replacement.

What is damaged?

The cistern (on the wall) and the pan (on the floor) are separate items, albeit originally they could have been supplied together. If you want something similar you'll need to try local salvage yards, but be ready for the shock when you find out how much they'll cost. You should be able to replace just the pan or just the cistern if only one is damaged (and this is the best idea not just for cost reasons).

sujsuj

It is only the pan that needs replacing—I am keeping the flush cistern system.

The other sanitaryware in my cloakroom is Doulton Glenford, but I'm not concerned about matching the manufacturer. What I need is a replacement pan with the exact same waste pipe position and inlet position so it can simply be swapped over using the existing pipework and two new sealing washers.

shape and position of inlet water pipe and waste pipe as well angle doesn't seems to of mainstream modentype available now.

That's why I'm trying to find out whether this particular pipe layout or pan configuration has a specific name, regardless of who manufactured it. Thanks.

Emmia

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82073905#Comment_82073905

I think you need to find pans that are a good visual match, and then use the information on their dimensions to confirm if they'll fit where you want them to... I don't think anyone can advise from photos.

The easiest option might be to find an identical replacement, if they're still made, or one from the same manufacturer.

WIAWSNB

Phew, only the pan. That cistern is lovely, and I'd hate to have to replace that - it's also an unusual design with that round bottom section, and secured lid. (Make sure the screws are well sili greased!)

I reckon most 'low-level' (or 'high') pans will fit there - you just need to take some measurements, the remotely-critical one being the inlet height from the floor. Even there, it looks flexible, as fair chance that mid pipe joint isn't soldered, but just 'sealed' (or, if soldered, and really necessary, a plumber could separate them, I'm sure.). But there's also a very good chance where the flush pipe goes in to the cistern is also adjustable, held by a round seal.

The pan's outlet looks pretty standard, and goes in to a very accommodating plastic multikwik.

WIAWSNB

This has dims: https://ebay.io/m/sqCPCN

Very classicish: https://share.google/7WgOqc4dQfcewYhKG

Section62

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82073933#Comment_82073933

That cistern is lovely, and I'd hate to have to replace that - it's also an unusual design with that round bottom section, and secured lid.

The round bottom is typical of the once-common 'bell flush' type. The cistern has a large/long flush-arm (with the chain hanging off it) because it has to lift the fairly heavy cast-iron 'bell' to start the flush going.

Ideally the replacement pan should be a high-level type as a low-level pan might have a sub-optimal flush when used with a high-level cistern.

WIAWSNB

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82074109#Comment_82074109

Thanks for that info.

I recall, from a house reno a good 3 decades ago when I fitted an attractive Vickie LL system, the same pan was supplied whether I chose high or low. Not sure if it was mentioned that a restrictor could be fitted for 'high' installations, or whether having splashed feet was just a feature with 'high'.

sujsuj

For the last 6 years, I have never bothered to grease or touch any part of the cistern mechanism, and it has never given me any trouble.

I probably need to start looking after it better going forward. Interestingly, all the other toilets in the house with plastic mechanisms have had issues over time. Many of those I managed to repair with the help and advice from people here, and I am repairing another one this week!

I have attached some photos, as some of you showed interest in this mechanism.

NorfolkCanary

Sorry, can't help, but I hate those toilets with a passion, give me the creeps….especailly those with black cisterns {eurgh!}, always think they're going to fall off or down

irrational fears lol