We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Adding wife to property ownership

I owned a house before meeting wife. (house is in my name only)

We moved out when I bought a 2nd house (again, in my name only)

Current situation

House 1 - I owned before meeting wife, in my name only, we lived in for 20 years, then moved in to house 2 about 10 years ago, i let out original in my name only.

House 2 - I bought in my name 10 years ago, we live in this property

House 1 - £400,000 mortgage free

House 2 - £500,000 mortgage free.

Now looking at selling house 1 which will have a capital gain of approx £120,000

Can I now put ownership of house 1 in to both our names so when sold we receive £200k each rather than it all coming to me?

what is it legally called if I giver her 50% ownership of house 1?

«1

Comments

  • UKSBD
    UKSBD Posts: 868 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper

    Update to this -

    I have been Googling and it looks like we should put House 1 in to "Joint Tenants" which we can get the solicitor we appoint for the sale to do before we put house on market.

    Also make sense to get same solicitor to put house 2 as "Joint Tenants" at the same time.

    Does that sound like the correct way of doing things?

  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 23,456 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 17 June at 11:16PM

    £120k taxable gain seems rather high considering you lived there for 2/3rd of the period of ownership, have you taking into account the available primary residence relief?

    Are either of you higher rate tax payers?

  • sherlock228
    sherlock228 Posts: 179 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 19 June at 10:30AM

    FYI by transferring to wife now she will "inherit" your claim to PRR even though she did not live in it herself whilst simultaneously being an owner of it.
    CG64925 - Private residence relief: ownership period: spouses or civil partners and legatees - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK


    If you intend to make the split 50/50 then Joint Tenants will achieve that.
    If however one if you pays a higher rate of income tax than the other, you might want to investigate unequal shares as Tenants in Common.

    Either way please be aware of the risk that HMRC may (low risk) say the transfer to her was done purely for tax purposes and therefore they have the power to ignore it and tax you as sole owner anyway. For example a transfer whilst the property is already being marketed for sale is a red flag.

  • UKSBD
    UKSBD Posts: 868 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper

    Yes, only paid £37k for it - the gain is about £350k but PRR knocks that down to closer to £120k

  • UKSBD
    UKSBD Posts: 868 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper

    Thanks

    Appreciate it may look like it is only being done for tax purposes, but in reality, we should have done it 20 years ago and it's really correcting something that should have been done.

    I will investigate if unequal shares is worth doing, but in reality we're not that bothered about saving a few hundred/low thousands, just want things set up correct.

  • UKSBD
    UKSBD Posts: 868 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper

    "FYI by transferring to wife now she will "inherit" your claim to PRR even though she did not live in it herself whilst simultaneously being an owner of it."

    Does that mean we split the PRR equally and submit on each others tax returns.

    ie.

    If it is just in my name I get the full £230k PRR, if it is "Joint Tenants" we both get £115k?

  • UKSBD
    UKSBD Posts: 868 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper

    Also, as it was only me who initially purchased and paid out expenses, would that mean her gain would be greater than mine?

    Ie

    assuming joint tenants, sale price of £400k, (ignoring any other costs for this example) we both get £200k

    My calculation would be £200k -£37k original purchase price -£13k expenses -£115k PRR = £35k capital gain.

    Wife's calculation would be £200k - £115k PRR = £85K capital gain

  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 16,034 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper

    Obviously relationships never go wrong.

    Artful, now on 3rd marriage.…

  • sherlock228
    sherlock228 Posts: 179 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 20 June at 3:11PM

    when an asset is transferred between married couples the transferee receives the item at the original cost paid by the transferor (on whatever share they now own obviously). Tthe so called "no gain no loss" transfer.
    "If the person receiving the asset later disposes of it, they will be treated as if they had paid an amount equal to the total of your costs."
    HS281 Capital Gains Tax civil partners and spouses (2026) - GOV.UK

    Being pedantic PRR is expressed as a % calculation done in months (or days), not years

    The gain is the gain. Changes to ownership and claims to PRR (for a married couple) affect only how much tax each person pays on their respective share.
    So, assuming 50/50 ownership and no other CGT liability that tax year (so full personal allowance remains for each), the position will be:

    As stated in link in previous response, the gain calculation (for a married couple) itself is not impacted by the transfer, so:
    Gross gain = sale 400k - original cost 37k - 13k "expenses" (incl both buying and selling fees), meaning:
    His share 350 x 50% = 175k
    Her share 350 x 50% = 175k

    His net taxable gain 175 - (175 x 66% PRR being approx 20 years lived in / approx 30+ total years owned) = £58,333 less personal CGT allowance 3,000 = total net taxable gain £55,333

    Her net taxable gain 175 - (175 x 66% PRR being approx 20 years lived in / approx 30+ total years owned) = £58,333 less personal CGT allowance 3,000 = total net taxable gain £55,333

    Obviously the purpose of the exercise is to access her 3,000 personal allowance so your combined bill is slightly lower than were he to sell as 100% owner.
    (if 100% owner then the net taxable gain would be 350 - (350 x 66.66%) - 3k allowance = 113k compared to the 110k total for joint)
    If both persons are in the same income tax bracket then with a gain of that size the tax saving is 24% on £3,000 so £720. Hence it is worth considering the cost of fees in doing any transfer as you may not save any money anyway if the transfer fee is "expensive"

    Where one person is a basic rate taxpayer and the other is not, that is when asset transfer can be made to be very tax efficient (and more cost effective) by having unequal ownership as more of the gain is exposed to the 18% lower tax rate.. Hence HMRC's attention to when and why the asset transfer was done.

  • poseidon1
    poseidon1 Posts: 3,638 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper

    If you are not bothered about saving a few hundred in tax for property 1, then no point arranging joint ownership if primary tax saving is mere utilisation of your wife's £3000 CGT exemption ( max tax saving of £720 at 24% via her allowance).

    Nothing stopping you giving her 50% of the net proceeds thereafter and avoids her having to submit two tax returns for the transaction ( online CGT return within 60 days together with a more detailed SA 100 self assessment return thereafter).

    You of course have these tax compliance obligations regardless, but if you can't do it yourself then only one set of professional fees to contend with rather than two. That said, I agree entirely with @sherlock's analysis of the more significant tax savings achievable if spouse is a zero or lower rate tax payer.

    As for the house you are living in, it certainly make sense to change that to some form of joint ownership ASAP. Whether that be Joint Tenants or Tenants in Common, entirely depends on what kind of estate planning you want to implement via your respective wills.

★ ★ ★ Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 355.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.8K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 456.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 248.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 605.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 179K Life & Family
  • 263.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.