Retirement Living Standards

Intoodeep

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82022170#Comment_82022170

I have recorded all my figures since the year 2000, have now been retired (now 61) for 18 months and having all the figures going forward has been most helpful and appreciated by my IFA.

coyrls

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82024273#Comment_82024273

Depends if you are having a comfortable, moderate or minimum retirement.

westv

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82024311#Comment_82024311

Maybe they were just being polite when you handed over 25 years of figures. 😊

Baldytyke88

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82023599#Comment_82023599

Do you think hunger is a bigger problem than obesity?

Nebulous2

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82024933#Comment_82024933

That's a bit like asking "Do you think cancer is a bigger problem than heart disease?"

I've a family history of cancer and very little heart disease, so I'd probably say yes. My friend with a family history of heart disease, with most of the male members of his family having needed surgery would probably say no.

Going back to obesity and hunger, one can lead to the other. People who grow up without enough food often have long-term health problems, but also often have a difficult relationship with food, with a lot of them having eating disorders. From memory there was a lot of research done on people who survived the concentration camps in the second war and eating disorders were very common. That was the same for people who survived the Japanese camps like the infamous Burma railway.

Obesity has been very insidious, and has become normalised. Seeing people posting family photos in a heritage group from the 50s and 60s a first comment is often - look how thin everyone is. They weren't, that was normal at the time. If we had been able to show them photos from now I'm sure they would have commented - look how fat everybody is.

Obesity is a massive problem, and needs an awful lot more work. The prevalence of ultra-processed food, advertising, cost of healthy alternatives, fear of letting children outside, lack of exercise as children, leading to adults who don't exercise either - all feed into that.

There is a class history of obesity - in the 19th century corpulence was often seen as a sign of wealth, in the late 20th century it was associated with poverty. Now it is just as likely to be the well-off, time poor family, collecting a child from child-care after a long day and feeding it convenience food before bed, knowing the whole hamster wheel starts again early the next morning.

Despite my rant about obesity - I still find it repugnant that children are going to bed or spending the weekend hungry.

Apologies - this has drifted way off topic - and is largely my fault.

ali_bear

But in those two examples you have starvation coupled with trauma - not surprising there are long-term effects jeez

MK62

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82024989#Comment_82024989

Fair enough, but starvation does tend to cause a bit of trauma……..

Nebulous2

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82024989#Comment_82024989

I didn't do a literature search - I simply referenced the two examples that came to mind.

But here is a starter if you want to dig.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10542957/

From the conclusions:-

"FI was associated with greater binge eating"

FI is Food Insecurity.