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Economy 7 / 7am cheap rate

johnweir123
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It's probably been asked a million times already but does anyone know which electricity supplier I should use if I want the old economy 7 tariff? Usually that was 12am to 7am at the lower rate.

A lot of companies now have reduced their overnight window and that's not as good for me. Some end at 5:30am, a lot of them end at 6am.

They seem to keep this information off of the public internet so searching on Google and using ChatGPT doesn't work. I need to hear from people who actually use a tariff which might be suitable.

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  • lohr500
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    I've suggested your post is moved to the main energy forum as I think you will get more replies there.

    This may help though :

    https://switchd.co.uk/energy/guides/economy7/

  • QrizB
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    edited Today at 4:40PM

    It's probably been asked a million times already but does anyone know which electricity supplier I should use if I want the old economy 7 tariff? Usually that was 12am to 7am at the lower rate.

    Economy 7 tariff times vary by region, remain on GMT all year round, and also differ from household to household.

    They have never been a global 0000-7000 but are always seven hours a night in England and Wales (Scottish "white meter" tariffs can be longer).

    A lot of companies now have reduced their overnight window and that's not as good for me. Some end at 5:30am, a lot of them end at 6am.

    To the best of my knowledge no company has shortened its Economy 7 tariff.

    I need to hear from people who actually use a tariff which might be suitable.

    What exactly are you looking for? If you want a tariff that's cheap-rate from midnight to 7am every night of the year, you might be out of luck.

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  • squirrelpie
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    It would be more helpful if it was right! Its says

    "What time does Economy 7 start?

    "The timings are different all across the UK as each area is run by a
    different network operator. Here's a handy table showing the off-peak
    times for every area in the UK (or check out the map at the bottom of
    this page!):

    "Region Off-peak time

    "Eastern 11pm - 7am"

    Firstly, the Economy seven tariff always offers seven hours of off-peak (the clue is in the name) and that first entry is eight hours! Secondly, I happen to live in the east and my seven hours are 00:30 - 07:30, so the timing is wrong as well!

    Then it goes on to say Ec07 is a great idea if you use a lot of electricity in the evening - that's just plain WRONG!

  • johnweir123
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    So can anybody recommend a supplier who offers a tariff that ends the overnight rate at 7am?

  • TroubledTarts
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    edited Today at 6:39PM

    As others have said, which you have ignored it is regional and the suppliers have the hours below to work between.

    Example below, perhaps you could move house if it upsets you that much?

    Economy 7 Times: By Region

    North of Scotland – 7 hours between 22.00 and 08.30

    South of Scotland – 7 hours between 22.00 and 08.30

    North East England – 00.30 to 07.30

    Yorkshire – 00.30 to 07.30

    North West England – 00.30 to 07.30

    Merseyside & North Wales – 7 hours between 00.00 and 08.00

    East Midlands – 7 hours between 23.00 and 07.00

    West Midlands – 7 hours between 23.30 and 08.00

    Eastern England – 7 hours between 23.00 and 07.00

    South Wales – 7 hours between 22.00 and 08.30

    Southern England – 23.30 to 06.30

    London – 7 hours between 23.00 and 07.00

    South East England – Either between 22.30 and 05.30 or 00.30 and 07.30

    South Western England – 7 hours between 22.00 and 08.30

  • Ildhund
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    It clearly depends who you ask! As far as I'm aware, SP deliver 8½ hours of offpeak electricity in Southern Scotland (DNO area ID 18, GSP group _N) and 8 hours in the MANWEB area (Merseyside and North Wales, DNO area ID 13, GSP group _D). It may be that some suppliers have different contracts, which is why it's not a simple task to find out what E7 times a particular customer could expect to enjoy. Many of the tariffs offering several hours overnight at cheaper rates aren't Economy 7 (register-based) at all, but rather smart Time of Use offerings based on half-hourly usage data.

    My own E7 timings (Supplier: OVO, DNO: NGED, Area ID 11, GSP group _B) are 00:00 - 07:00 GMT.

    I'm not being lazy ...
    I'm just in energy-saving mode.

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