Health is important with investing, not just wealth.

ShinyStarlight1

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82099296#Comment_82099296

Young girls often lost interest in sport around puberty because their monthly menstruation was painful and draining. It wasn’t just about ‘being cool’.

poseidon1

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The post code lottery is an interesting one.

Many years ago when annuities were the default option for personal pensions, I seriously considered whether moving to Glasgow a few years prior to retirement would yield me a higher annuity compared to London, in view of that city's high mortality risks. There were very distinct differences in the rates back then.

Annuities are no longer a consideration for me, but I note Glasgow continues to suffer some of the lowest mortality rates in the UK, despite the slowly changing demographics and pockets of increasing affluence.

Albermarle

but I note Glasgow continues to suffer some of the lowest mortality rates in the UK,

I guess you mean highest rates, or lowest life expectancy ?

despite the slowly changing demographics and pockets of increasing affluence.

There is even a name for it 'the Glasgow effect', part of a wider 'Scottish effect' where life expectancy is lower than similar regions of the UK and Europe. It even affects the more affluent when compared to affluent people in English cities. There does not seem to be a fully clear explanation of the reasons.

GeoffTF

I read that life expectancy is 30 years longer in one part of Glasgow than it is in another. There are also very big differences between areas near where I live. I have lived in places at both extremes, but that would not have had any direct effect on my life expectancy.

poseidon1

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82104050#Comment_82104050

Sorry, yes I did mean highest!

GeoffTF

Areas have higher life expectancy because the people who live there have higher life expectancy, not because those areas are healthier places to live. A healthy diet and exercise increases your life expectancy, and has an even greater effect on your healthy life expectancy. Getting rich will not do that. The healthiest populations were not wealthy, and typically became less healthy when they became more wealthy and adopted less healthy diets and exercised less.

Nebulous2

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There isn't much of a Scotland effect if you remove the greater Glasgow area. With roughly a third of the Scottish population, and still struggling with the after effects of post-industrialisation, that really drags the Scottish figures down.

Glasgow has made progress in recent years, at one time some local authority wards were said to have lower male life expectancy than Beirut, but that has changed.

There are some mind blowing extremes in Glasgow. For instance I have seen a claim that first-time mothers in one of the affluent areas are the same average age as first-time grand-mothers in one of the deprived areas.

They also have some very strange cultural things - people who wont eat greens at all, for some of them because of the association with a football team on one side of the city. Living on chips and pies turns out to not be very good for you….

Enzo_L

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82104176#Comment_82104176

The tale about some Glaswegians refusing to eat greens because of the association with a football team - or religious denomination - is mirrored by a similar tale of some Glaswegians on the other side refusing to eat carrots because of the association with the other team/religious denomination.

Both stories are of course complete rubbish.

Nebulous2

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82104314#Comment_82104314

That comment was a bit tongue in cheek, although it has been a persistent urban myth. I hadn't heard about the carrots.

Glasgow has historically had a very poor diet, with a lower consumption of fruit and veg than most of the rest of the UK, and again that is often linked to poverty.

BBC article

I worked in Glasgow occasionally and found it fascinating. I couldn't go out to eat or stop for a drink without getting involved in a conversation. I'm Scottish and worked over much of Scotland occasionally.. I could go out to eat in most towns in Scotland without speaking to anyone other than the person serving me, but that was impossible in Glasgow.

The divide in the City was very pervasive though. I was often asked about football allegiance and was regarded as a curiosity when I responded that I wasn't interested in football.

There were some very unhealthy elements to that. I came across care workers refusing to work with a young disabled man who had a Celtic strip on his bedroom wall.

The story of people breaking green traffic lights was something I had always regarded as another urban myth, but I've just looked it up and it appears there is something in it. Not actually Glasgow but nearby.

Herald article

StewedApple

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/82104148#Comment_82104148

There is a very strong correlation between wealth and health - the science is incontrovertible. Those who have low incomes suffer more ill health and for longer than those who have higher incomes. Those who are poor live in worse housing conditions, have less access to exercise opportunities, and cannot afford the sorts of diets of those who are generally healthier and this is a significant factor in their ill health.
Those who have higher incomes and ignore long established medical advice about diet and exercise are more prone to suffer disease and ill health than those who don't.
Equally, within any population (including the poor) there will be variations in outcome - this does not undermine the scientific evidence, and the fact that someone lives in a postcode with a high level of deprivation does not mean they will die at the average - mean averages are just that - some people will die before the average and others will die after it.
I have absolutely no idea what this thread has to do with money saving and investments.