Parking Charge Notice - Not Parked in Marked Bay

nosebleeds2

Hi everyone!

I promise, I really tried to read the newbies instructions. But I couldn't make heads or tails of what they meant.

I got a parking charge notice from CPM, who manage the residential car park in the building where I live - I'm shareholder and part owner.
Although I had a valid permit, they claim I was not parked wholly within a marked bay. Technically, this is true - another car had parked very close to the line, and so my car had to exceed the line on the other side by a bit to allow both drivers to enter and exit their cars. However, the other side of the line, where my car is sticking out, is not a parking bay nor a walking area. It's the last space in the row. I wasn't causing any interference, rather, one might easily see this was the most considerate way to park.

They have photo evidence of my car, the parking position, AND the sign saying you must park wholly within the bay. Feels like I'm bang to rights. But honestly this isn't the spirit by which I think the rule should be applied - I could not possibly park inside the bay and leave the car. Nor was there any issue for anyone with the way I parked!

I have called them to request they cancel the charge, but they were horrible and unhelpful. I've spoken to the building management but they're taking the side of CPM, saying that the car was outside the bay.

What can I do? Should I try their appeals process? And if so, what possible reason could I give? They're clearly just ticking boxes here. Annoying that I'm actually paying them a mothly fee for this "service"!

Again, I know this has probably been discussed to death, and that the newbies thread must have had some advice about this. But I'm absolutely lost.

Please help!

Gr1pr

Ignore them

Car1980

Presumably it's your marked bay?

What does your lease say about using the space?

Quote often these companies have no right to try and form contracts because the lease grants its own rights.

Building management often gets a kickback, which is why they don't help.

So find out your legal position. Every chance you're not even obliged to need or display a permit if it's 'your' land.

Coupon-mad

Why on earth have you as a leaseholder with a share of the freehold (or was it the RTM group or managing agents) let notorious ex-wheelclampers UKCPM into your home estate? Sack them!

My goodness you absolutely don't need a pseudo 'permit scheme' where UKCPM only make money if they can find a way to catch out residents. They make no money otherwise. Did nobody realise this is what they do?

You don't let a parking firm into residential car parks.

You are not 'bang to rights' and will never pay.

1505grandad

Even the latest unregulated ppssCoP (soon to be replaced by a proper regulated PPCoP by the Government) recognise/acknowledge this scam:-

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130225.pdf

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Relationship with landowner

NOTE 3: Particular care is needed to establish appropriate contractual terms, including the application of parking terms and conditions, in respect of controlled land where leaseholders may have rights that cannot be qualified or overruled e.g. by imposing a requirement on the resident of an apartment block to display a permit to park in contravention of their rights under their lease, or to ensure that free parking periods do not breach planning consents.

Le_Kirk

I wonder who that other car belonged to! Surely not someone who works for UKCPM! If UKCPM are actually in the business of managing car parks and not just sending out PCNs they are duty bound to make sure you can park wholly in your space!