We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Do lease holders need to be a 'company?'

Hi, 10 years ago 3 flat owners bought the freehold of a block of 9 flats. We had to form a company with Companies House in order to do so….we are having a nightmare with trying to change a wrongly registered DOB - been trying since last December Keep being threatened by Companies House because we haven't/can't file the company statement. Any advice please? Is it possible to just disband the company or would we lose the right to the ground rents [which pay our loans taken out to buy the freehold!]. Thank you..

Comments

  • subjecttocontract
    subjecttocontract Posts: 3,580 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper

    Could the person who made the mistake not enlist a solicitor to help with correcting the information ?

  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 19,785 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper

    If you can't submit the confirmation statement then you're unlikely to be able to wind up the company either, even if you wanted to.

    In theory you could transfer the freehold to your names as individuals, but it's going to be simpler to sort out the Companies House issues.

  • mills112
    mills112 Posts: 429 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper

    you can't wind up the company as you need a company to hold a freehold if there is more than one person owning the freehold.

    can you go back to the solicitors that set up the company for you? they were propably responsible for the mistake in the first place? otherwise, get a solicitor to change it for you.

  • MyRealNameToo
    MyRealNameToo Posts: 4,516 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Name Dropper

    Using a company makes things easier because if you bring in a new co-owner or someone sells both their leasehold and share of the freehold the freehold aspect is mainly dealt with by Companies House rather than the Land Registry because Company 1234 is the freeholder before and after the transactions.

    Its not perfect though as you now have to do stuff in relation to the company and deal with Companies House.

    As to the DoB issues, its not normally too hard to correct, the details are at https://www.gov.uk/guidance/correcting-your-date-of-birth-with-companies-house . Not had this problem but have had to change the name of one of our directors after marriage and then again after it was updated incorrectly and it wasnt a complex process

  • poseidon1
    poseidon1 Posts: 3,116 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper

    Resolve the DOB issue with professional assistance if struggling to do so DIY.

    A company structure is by far the preferred structure for holding the freehold reversionary title of a block of flats compared to holding personally. A single corporate entity provides a clearly defined and straightforward route to changing ownership of the participants on death, divorce, bankruptcy etc of a shareholder/ director, compared to personal ownership.

    In any event , you say the Freehold covers all 9 flats but only 3 leaseholders participated in acquiring the reversionary title.

    This means the freehold company has a value equal to the investment value of the ground rents the company is receiving, and potential marriage values for any leases which are declining and had not been extended ( before anyone chips in that marriage values have been legally abolished - not yet, pending a legal challenge now underway).

    Liquidation of such a company could therefore trigger a 'notional' shareholder gain attracting individual CGT liabilties on the shareholders concerned.

    Then having gotten rid of a perfectly serviceable freehold company, you may still find it more efficient to install a flat management company to sit between you and the 6 leaseholders, rather than running the block as an unincorporated partnership between the 3 of you, making a nonsense of dissolving the original freehold company in the first place.

    Suggest step back and think this through properly, a DOB issue is no reason ( at all) for dismantling a carefully structured reversion company.

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 355K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.7K Life & Family
  • 262.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.