I have no knowledge of a window ticket but notice to keeper says a discount was offered? How?

Person53465

Hi,

I've received a notice to keeper that implies the drive was notified (stating a discount was offered) but I'm not aware of any window ticket. It is near a school so there's a small chance some kids removed it but it also says the PCN was issued t

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wo days after the incident so how could they have put a ticket on the car.

As I understand from reading the forum and the PoFA if they didn't issue a window ticket the notice to keeper should be issued within 14 days and therefore they can't pursue me as keeper because they are late.

Do I add this to the standard appeal? If they turn around with a photo of a ticket on the windscreen am I then screwed?

Kind regards,

GrumpyDil

I think you are misunderstanding that letter as nothing indicates a windscreen notice was issued.

What they do are saying was that they issued a PCN on 18th March so I assume by post and that is well within the 14 days

That said you are far from screwed but you do need to read the newbie threads at the top of this forum to help you.

Gr1pr

They cannot issue an NTK PCN letter to you until at least day 29 following a windscreen pcn, day 29 to day 56 for Pofa2012 compliance

So 2 days since the incident date is a standard NTK, within 14 days, due to no windscreen pcn

Person53465

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81972341#Comment_81972341

This is the first letter I have received.

Person53465

That's why I'm confused I thought there might have been a removed ticket because this is the first I've heard.

Person53465

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81972341#Comment_81972341

Thankyou both for your help. I'm confused because this is the first letter I've received.

Jame4ters

Don’t be confused

Maybe it got lost in the post.

Maybe it wasn’t ever sent

Person53465

Thankyou for all the help so far! Would something like this be appropriate to appeal with?

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

The alleged contravention date is 16/03/2026, according to the only 'Notice' I have received - a letter dated 15th April, which is not a compliant Notice to Keeper. To hold a keeper liable, a compliant NTK must have arrived within 14 days; however no such notice was served. You have missed the time-frame set out in POFA 2012. As such, keeper liability cannot be applied.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your notice is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner.

Gr1pr

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81972377#Comment_81972377

First one Received maybe, but that doesn't mean that 2 weren't sent, they will state that the first one was posted on the issue date, 2 days after the incident date , presumed 2 business days later, then a reminder was sent as well

Regardless, you can appeal, no it won't win, they will reject the appeal, no profit in accepting any appeal

Then its an impasse

Coupon-mad

Obviously nobody pays these greedy invoices though.

🙂