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Advice on DCB Legal Letter of Claim (Smart Parking) – Oakland Quay, London

Dear Money Saving Expert Team,

This is my first post on here and hoping to get some guidance from all of you hero's! I recently received a DCB Legal Letter of Claim acting on behalf of Smart Parking Limited. The letter relates to a parking charge from July 2022. They demand I pay £170 with some urgency and their usual fear mongering tactics. I would really appreciate advice on whether I have a reasonable defence or whether payment is the sensible option in my circumstances.

Parking Charge Notice details:

  • Location: Oakland Quay, London
  • Contravention: Parked without authorisation
  • Contravention Date & Time: 16/07/2022 at 15:04
  • Issue Date: 08/08/2022
  • Parking Operator: Smart Parking Limited
  • Debt Collection / Legal: DCB Legal
  • Amount demanded: £170

For a brief background - my wife and I were travelling to a hotel near Oakland Quay. I was unfamiliar with the area and could not easily locate the hotel entrance. I briefly entered a nearby area, which I later learned was not authorised parking.

At no point did I leave the car unattended. I left my wife in the vehicle with the while I walked for a short time to find the hotel entrance. Once I found it, I returned and drove away. The total time spent in the area was approximately 15minutes.

They have photographs which show my vehicle entering and leaving the area with timestamps, which appears to confirm that the vehicle was not parked for any extended period.

At the time, I ignored the postal parking charge notices sent in 2022 because I read online that I don't need to pay Smart Parking and they are just trying to scare me etc. Also, I did not believe I had “parked” in the normal sense of the word

I now realise ignoring the correspondence was probably not the best approach, and I am dealing with the matter properly at this stage.

  1. Does a brief stop of around 15 minutes, with the vehicle occupied and hazard lights on, normally qualify as “parking” ?
  2. Does the photographic evidence showing only entry and exit times support or weaken the operator’s claim?
  3. Given the age of the charge (nearly three years old) and the circumstances, is it worth defending this if it proceeds to court, or is payment likely to be the most pragmatic option?

I am not trying to avoid a legitimate charge if I truly have no defence, but I also do not wish to be pressured into paying something unfairly if there are valid grounds to challenge it.

Thank you very much for your time and for the invaluable guidance your team provides.

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  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 14,018 Forumite
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    If you have a formal Letter of Claim giving you 30 days notice from DCB, respond to their info@ email address using the LoC template in the 2nd post in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum

    Then wait for the inevitable N1SDT court claim pack from the CNBC in Northampton using MCOL

  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 26,484 Forumite
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    Is it a letter of/before claim or have you received a N1SDT claim form? If it is a claim form, what is the date of issue? If it is a letter of/before claim, refer to the NEWBIE sticky second post to find a suitable reply to DCB Legal.

  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,443 Forumite
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    Make sure that you never reveal who was driving in any correspondence.

  • QoreNuba
    QoreNuba Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Thing is I don’t want to take it all the way to court, does my position as described above qualify me for appealing successfully using the 2nd post on the newbie thread?

  • QoreNuba
    QoreNuba Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Apologies but I can’t seem to locate the LoC template in the 2nd post in the newbies sticky thread, would you be kind enough to paste the link to the templates here?

  • QoreNuba
    QoreNuba Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Hello again is the below draft fit for purpose shall i send it across is there anything key that I should include/exclude?


    To: DCB Legal Ltd

    Your Ref:
    Claimant: Smart Parking Ltd
    PCN:
    Vehicle Registration:

    To whom it may concern,

    I acknowledge receipt of your Letter of Claim. For the avoidance of doubt, the alleged debt is denied in its entirety.

    My address for service is correct as per your correspondence. Any alternative addresses must be erased from your records.

    No parking event giving rise to liability

    Your client relies on ANPR images which merely show alleged times of entry and exit. ANPR evidence does not demonstrate parking and does not evidence any period of stationary parking.

    The vehicle was not parked at any time. It was briefly stopped while the occupants located the entrance to nearby accommodation before leaving the site. The allegation of “parking without authorisation” is therefore denied.

    Permit‑only signage — no contract capable of acceptance

    If, as you assert, the location was restricted to permit holders only, then no contractual offer was capable of acceptance by a non‑permit holder. In such circumstances, no parking contract can arise.

    Any suggestion that a non‑permit holder can be contractually bound by signage which expressly excludes them is legally untenable.

    Alternatively, if your client alleges trespass, they are put on notice that only the landowner has standing to pursue such a claim. Your client has none.

    Signage and contractual terms denied

    It is denied that signage at the location was sufficiently prominent, clear, or legible to form a binding agreement. Further, signage which is prohibitive in nature (“permit holders only”) cannot create a contractual charge against a party to whom no offer is made.

    ANPR misuse

    ANPR systems record vehicular movement, not parking behaviour. Entry and exit timestamps are incapable of proving a breach of parking terms or the existence of a parking event.

    No admission as to driver identity / keeper liability denied

    No admission is made as to the identity of the driver. Liability as keeper is denied. You are put to strict proof of full compliance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, which is not accepted.

    Inflated and unrecoverable sum

    The claimed sum of £170 is denied. The additional £70 is an unrecoverable enhancement and is routinely struck out by the courts as an abuse of process.

    Required documents

    Before any proceedings are contemplated, please supply:

    • The landowner contract authorising Smart Parking Ltd to operate and litigate at this location in July 2022
    • Copies of all signage relied upon and a site plan showing their locations
    • Evidence of an alleged period of parking, not merely ANPR timestamps
    • A full breakdown of the sums claimed and the legal basis for each

    Until such information is provided, the claim remains inadequately particularised.

    Should your client elect to proceed, the claim will be defended in full and the court will be invited to consider the reasonableness of pursuing a claim where no contractual liability can arise.

    Yours faithfully,

  • QoreNuba
    QoreNuba Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Okay so I am only asking this to make sure there is nothing hidden that I am unware of by repsonding -

    They have responded to my email by saying the following

    "

    Good morning.

    We thank you for your recent email.

    We take the confidentiality of our matters very seriously and as a result, we ask you to answer the following security questions in full before we can correspond with you via email.

    Please could you confirm:

    • Your full name
    • First line of your address
    • Postcode

    By responding to this email, you consent for us to use this email address for communication in relation to your case, this may contain information that is personal to you. When communicating by email, please remember that it may be ‘unsecure’. If at any time, you no longer wish for your personal information to be communicated by email, or you no longer have access to this mailbox, please notify us immediately.

    Should you prefer to discuss this matter on the telephone, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0203 838 7038.

    Kind Regards,"

    I am fine to give them the information requested right (as they already have it anyway)? nothing here will be somehow used in their benefit?

    Again apologies if the question comes across as silly, but honestly I don't trust their intent with any of their correspondence I've got them marked up as scammer in my head haha so just making sure this is normal procedure.

    Thanks,

  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 14,018 Forumite
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    Correct, they are checking that you are you, that the person emailing them is the same person that they wrote to

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