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I need some help - Cyprus

My father (pops) passed away in Cyprus.

Pops had dual citizenship and was living in Cyprus at the time.

While I have been applying for the uk probate the British HM Courts and Tribunals Service have requested a copy of the Cyprus will. Does anyone know why they will need to see a copy of this will, as I have provided them with the original UK will?

The British HM Courts and Tribunal Service has also enquired about a inheritance certificate issued by Cyprus, does anyone know what this is, and again why do they need to see this?

I have also been asked to produce a Affidavit of Foreign Law from someone conversant with the inheritance laws of Cyprus confirming who is beneficially entitled to the estate of the deceased under Cypriot inheritance laws. It should also confirm that the deceased died intestate in Cyprus.

I have been told, the affidavit can be provided by a solicitor in the uk, but must be qualified to practice law in Cyprus. I did a google search, and contacted a few solicitors who specialise in Cyprus Lay in the UK. One solicitor said they can sort this all out for me, but it would cost between 4 - 6 thousand pounds. This was far outside my disposable income, and seemed to be quite a lot.

Another solicitor said he would need to talk to me first, and a 30 minute conversation would cost £250.00

I was wondering if anyone had any answers to the above questions, and also can anyone recommend a solicitor who practises Cyprus Law. I dont want to be ripped off, and I would of thought, the information I need would not cost too much.

I am located in South London.

One last thing, I have discovered a will belonging to my late father in Cyprus. The will states clearly, his estate should be left to his wife. Unfortunately, his wife passed away before he did. The will makes no reference to his children benefiting from his estate. Would it help my probate application, if I passed on the will to British HM Courts and Tribunals Service, or will it make things worse, as none of his children are mentioned???

One last thing, There was a court inquest, starting in October 2025. Would this court inquest be completed now, and would I receive a report?

Any offers of help, greatly appreciated.

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  • Annemos
    Annemos Posts: 1,129 Forumite
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    edited Today at 1:22AM

    I am very sorry to hear of your Father's passing. We have been dealing with our Mum's, but that is just in the UK. Yours does look much more involved. Wishing you all the very best in sorting it out.

    I took a quick look in Google Search and came up with these two links. Maybe they will be of some use to help you on your way?

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    This link seems to be for the general rules. I am no expert, but it seems to say they normally use the EU country the person was last living in for the inheritance. (Unless the person had made a "choice of law" saying they wanted their country of nationality to be used for the inheritance instead. You can click in to see just how that "choice of law" had to be done to apply.)

    https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/family/inheritances/managing-inheritance/index_en.htm

    https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/family/inheritances/managing-inheritance/index_en.htm

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    In the above there is also this link below for Cyprus.

    This is re Succession Laws in Cyprus. (I am no expert, but it does seem to address if there is a Cyprus will, but the person to inherit, his wife, had already passed away. And then it goes on to discuss the order of succession that then follows from that.) It also discusses the Affidavit issue.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov.cy/Judicial/SC.nsf/All/E3A56C7D44C09739C2258A630030E49D?OpenDocument

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    And this link here describes how the UK fits in. It discusses 2 wills in both countries.

    https://www.expertsforexpats.com/advice/expat-money-and-finance/expat-wills

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    No Inheritance Tax in Cyprus, apparently.

    https://enalian.com.cy/cyprus-inheritance-laws-tax-implications/

  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 22,667 Forumite
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    Where was your father actually domiciled? This is a;ways the same place you live.

    Was the Cypriote will written before he had children? I ask because Cypress has forced heirship rules meaning you can’t leave everything to a spouse when you have children.

  • poseidon1
    poseidon1 Posts: 2,694 Forumite
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    OP despite being considerably out of your depth in this matter you seem intent on progressing as best you can.

    You have provided very little relevant information so I ask the following :

    1. Was your father a British Citizen who later acquired Cypriot citizenship or vice versa?
    2. Did your father spend most of his adult life in UK but later retired to Cyprus hence the exsistence of a UK will?
    3. You mention an inquest into your father's death. In UK or Cyprus, and were there suspicious circumstances or questions related to his passing that justified an inquest?
    4. Did your father own a UK home if so what was its value on death? Similarly did he own a Cyprus property and what was its value? Are these properties to be sold once probate in each jurisdiction obtained?
    5. Apart from property ( if any) did your father have any cash assets in UK and Cyprus?
    6. There seems to be a UK will, are you the named sole executor? If not who are the executors if more than one?
    7. Who are the beneficiaries of the UK will?
    8. Is there a possibilty that UK inheritance tax is due and payable on the value of the assets in England and Cyprus? If so you have already missed the 6 month deadline for settlement. I note in this regard your mother(?) predeceased your father, did he inherit anything from her and when did she die?

    @Annemos has provided helpful links which relate to the legal aspects of dealing with crossborder estates but given your complete lack of knowledge it would be dangerous for you to continue trying to deal with this matter without competent professional assistance. Duties imposed on executors are onerous with potential penalties if you go astray.

    You mention you have had a solicitor quote of 4 to 6 thousand pounds to sort out your father's estate. If your father owned property in both countries, in my view the quote is too low for a London based solicitor who has competency in Cross border estate administration where real estate is involved.

    In any event solicitor's fees are a liability of your father's estate not a cost to you, so your income ( or lack of) should be irrelevant here.

    If you father did own property in both jurisdictions, my strong reccomendation is you consult the STEP directory to find a suitably qualified lawyer. STEP is the Society of Trust and Estate Practitioners, and their members have a much higher degree of training and experience in estate matters compared to the average High Street lawyer. You could check if the firm that gave you the quote are affiliated to STEP, although I suspect not.

    Link to STEP below:

    https://www.step.org/about-step/public

    If your father had no property assets in either jurisdiction and only modest cash assets, getting a STEP qualified lawyer involved would likely be an unjustifiable expense.

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