Using electricity in the barn that has not been paid for - HELP!

Lorian

Also a possibility it's 3 phase

tfhnota

MPAN starts 00 for business but that designation is now used for smart meters as well - I found that out when my smart meter went dumb and it came up as business and thus excluded from heat pump quote by Octopus, once it was fixed it went back to domestic. You really can't make this up, the supply industry has layers of incompetence and nonsense that is protected by Ofgem who consumers actually pay for.

QrizB

MPAN starts 00 for business but that designation is now used for smart meters as well

Some smart meters, typically ones on smart tariffs.

Other smart meters still have 01 or 02 MPANs.

Scot_39

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81930584#Comment_81930584

I thought it applies to micro businesses and domestic.

MWT

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81931031#Comment_81931031

I agree, but regardless of that if they took control of the premises, used energy and failed to contact the supplier they are not in a good position to be looking at back-billing as the supplier does need to be given the opportunity to bill in the first-place…

… on the other-hand I am not going to be surprised to find that if they kill all the power to the house, the barn supply will also go dead…

WiserMiser

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81931222#Comment_81931222

Surely the supplier would long ago have sent a bill to 'The Occupier' at the relevant address?

But it may be a false alarm, we need to hear back from the OP whether turning off the house supply also disconnects the barn.

Spikeygran

How have you come to the conclusion that the barn isn't connected to your meter?

You could switch everything off at the house for a short while, take a meter reading, then have one of you in the barn with a small appliance (not safe to leave unattended obviously) but a 1kw or larger appliance should use enough in 30 minutes to register on the meter. Assuming you have mobile signal at the barn you can co-ordinate the switching on/off while watching the meter.

Who did the barn belong to originally? I'm assuming your house was divided off from a farm, or estate. So could the barn still be connected to the farm?

If you cant work it out a qualified electrician should be able to confirm whether it is attached to your supply or not. And what sort of supply is in the barn.

Swipe

If you switch off the mains at the house, if the barn is connected to your house supply, then there'll be no power to the barn unless it has a direct connection to your meter cupboard. If it does, and still has power, as above, use an appliance in the barn for a while and then check both meters to see if they incremented equally.

optimistique1

Hello sorry for the late reply…. We assumed that all the utilities were supplied from the house just like the water is. There was nothing listed in the deeds regarding any other electrical supply other than the main house. The meter in the barn is all taped up as though it is out of use and has never been touched by us since the move. We only suspected something last week or so when we turned the power off in the house during renovations and the bulbs were still on in the barn…

We will reach out to the electricity board and see that they say….

Yes the village was part of an estate which was all sold off in bits quite a while ago….

WiserMiser

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81934629#Comment_81934629

The electricity boards were abolished 36 years ago.