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I Used ChatGPT to Predict the Inflation Rate

I saw the government's prediction for future inflation rates today:

OBR Forecast.png

which I found to be laughable. It seems that wherever it is now, they think it will head rapidly to 2% then stay there.

I asked ChatGPT to take the same graph and make a prediction. Here is the result:

ChatGPT forecast.png

Slightly different… Though perhaps even more unlikely IMO

Gemini was more interesting. It found the data to be cyclical and produced this:

GeminiInflation.png

If I had to pick one, this would be my favourite, though my complete guess doesn't really align with any of these three complete guesses.

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  • Woodstok2000
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    The government forecast is as much political as it is economical. They're never going to forecast runaway inflation as that would just invite criticism of their current economic policies.

  • Secret2ndAccount
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    Actually I know that 🙂 The point of my post, if there is one, is to illustrate how woefully poor the OBR forecast is. The BofE's job is to pull the levers to get inflation to 2% then keep it there, so the forecast takes inflation in a straight line to 2% then holds it there. 30+ years of history tells us that inflation never remains stable, and seldom resides near 2%. Therefore the OBR's method must be failing to consider so many factors that its output is no more useful than the first order line fit provided by ChatGPT.

    Must do better…

  • LHW99
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    The "projection" is very simple whereas the "forecast" assumes that there will be interventions to change the projection to a more amenable outcome.

    And which one should we assume will be presented to us "sheeples"? 🙄

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  • michaels
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    If you assume that monetary (and to a lesser extent fiscal) levers will be pulled in order achieve a 2% inflation rate then your best central estimate for inflation will be 2% - of course as the time frame extends the confidence interval /uncertainty bands will widen quickly but these are not shown on the OBR projection above.

    I think....
  • chuffinnora
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    Do all the different models make allowances for the increasing number of nutjob leaders around the world. They are becoming as common as a rainy day.

  • Universidad
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    edited 3 March at 11:33PM

    You can ask LLMs to model for a shift to isolationist or fascist economic policies, and they will provide an output, but I wouldn't trust a decorated political economist to give me something useful, let alone a statistical model based on their aggregated opinions.

  • Secret2ndAccount
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    err, no. Current value of CPI is 3.0% (despite BofE pulling levers) Average of the last 20 years is 3.0% (despite BofE pulling levers). So my baseline guess for the next 5 years is 3.0%. To come up with a forecast that rapidly heads to 2.0 and then stays there is to be out of touch with reality.

  • ali_bear
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    Notice how the ChatGPT graph looks superficially correct and optimistic, when on closer examination it is factually incorrect about historical data.

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