I would appreciate your valued guidance on switching from gas to electric

MikeJXE

Due to my landlady wanting to sell I am considering moving from a 1 bed ground floor flat built 2007 to another of similar size ground floor flat built 2008 close by so building regs would be similar. 

My issue is I am dual fuel and moving to Electric only so I know there is going to be a cost increase but no idea on what that might look like

My current flat faces due West, no sun ever due to trees, 2 small windows to lounge 2 small widows to bedroom, no sun, rear wall is internal to stairs to upper levels, side walls to adjoining flats, kitchen open plan to lounge, bathroom no window, small hall, gas hob, electric oven, fridge washing machine.fully carpeted. EPC B

Combi boiler feeding hot water, shower and heating, the heating is set at 18 degrees 24/7, I like to be warm.  usage 3,768 kWh  Electric is 545 kWh

New flat faces south, no shade, end of a block with flat above, 1 Wall to next door, rear wall to corridor. EPC C. 77. French doors to lounge and bedroom, lounge wood floor bedroom carpet. Hob, oven, integral fridge, freezer, washer dryer, dish washer, (Probably won't use drier and dish washer.)

If I can add a photo of the radiators I will, I have no idea on the make as I haven’t viewed yet.

Any idea of the extra cost ?

Thank you for looking 

Brie

can't answer your question but I think you are more likely to get a proper response if this is in the Energy forum rather than LPG/solid fuel one.

Netexporter

The make of radiator won't make any difference as they will all have a COP of 1. The aspect and having a flat above will go in your favour, as will the half-decent insulation in a building of that age.

The main thing that will determine the cost is your lifestyle and how much you pay for electricity. How much you pay will depend on what sort of meter you have. Your opportunity to get a better unit rate will be limited by a fixed rate meter. A smart meter will give you access to time of use tariffs, which can effect significant savings if you can find a tariff the fits with your lifestyle.

You will be saving on the gas standing charge, which will pay for some hundreds of kWh of electricity.

QrizB

Those look very much like direct electric (panel) heaters. They run on standard-rate electricity.

In your current flat, 3768kWh of gas plus a year's standing charge would be (on the Ofgem cap) approx. £352 a year.

3768kWh of standard-rate electricity would be £1043. So almost £700 extra.

I can't say whether your new flat will need more heating than the old one, or less, but that ca. £700 number might be somewhere to start.

MikeJXE

Thank you for your replies

Brie

I have requested a move to the main energy board

Netexporter

Might have to change my lifestyle a bit, I'm thinking heated throw and perhaps halogen heater as I sit at my laptop most of the day when I'm not out. I will take a look at time of use tariffs, more coffee in Wetherspoons will be cheaper than Electric heating

QrizB

I am on a fix with Octopus gas SC £105.69 Units 218.54, Yep I can dispose of one standing charge. £700 is not bad I was thinking 4X gas = £900/£1,000

I am so looking forward to having some sun having spent 3 years in the shade with a lamp on feeling cold even on a sunny day.

Spoonie_Turtle

Solar gain on bright days will be VERY helpful temperature-wise as well.

tfhnota

A half decent halogen heater on or under your desk, even run on a single 660W bar, gives a nice blast of heat in an otherwise cool house and does not need to be on all the time - I have gas central heating but it is cheaper to run the halogen and just heat myself. Probably depends how you grew up but I like cold bedrooms but at nearly 70 do indulge in preheating the mattress with an electric blanket (costs almost nothing) and have two duvets and a throw for winter and am often too warm. There is another thread on warming the person rather than the house if you want to go that route. Metal box halogen heaters rather than the cheap plastic ones are listed on eBay, and less likely to fall over and set the flat on fire.

Swipe

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81886300#Comment_81886300

Even the cheapest plastic Halogen heaters have a tip over cut off switch on them.

EssexHebridean

Factor in the fact that as you get older, you will almost certainly need increased indoor temperatures too.

You would have the option of changing out the panel heater in the main room you spend your time in for a modern HHR storage heater, but that could be roundabouts and swings as although that room could then be heated at Economy 7 rates, any additional heat you need elsewhere will of course be at higher rates than the standard. It also wouldn't be a cheap thing to do - you'd need to balance up how long it would take you to get the value from the expenditure.

Honestly - if I were you, I would be looking for somewhere different.

born_again

Just got a tapo p110

Put heated throw one for a hour last night, used .057kWh over a hour as a guide.

debitcardmayhem

Really

Honestly - if I were you, I would be looking for somewhere different.

Home is more than worrying about saving a few pounds on electricity, and there are ways to alleviate some of the costs. I don't want to spend my limited time left worrying about the price of agile and whether I can put the cooker on etc. I prefer to enjoy my house,garden and the distance to my amenities (pub🍺) .

Yes it's money saving forum but there has to be a balance. @MikeJXE enjoy whilst you can.