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How to find out who owns land?

I have an outstanding parking ticket that I'm having help with on another thread. I've been trying for weeks to find out who owns the land the car park is on. I went to the land registry and got a copy of the title deed and it turned out to be the land right next to it.

I've phoned the shop (Home Bargains, Nat Lane, Winsford) and I've phoned the company that owns Home Bargains, and I've phoned and emailed several places that I thought may own the land. I've phoned the pub chain who own nearby land. No-one seems to know. I've tried to find out through parking eye but they don't seem to have a mechanism for that.

I don't know what to try next. Can anyone advise? Thanks

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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 26,329 Forumite
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    SOME IDEAS ON DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND

    1. Google searches
    2. If a retail park, check on any signage which lists the on-site outlets
    3. Ask retailers on the site if there is a managing agent
    4. Ask retailers on the site to whom do they pay rent
    5. Contact the local authority and ask who pays the non-domestic/business rate for the car park (some councils have a spreadsheet on their website)
    6. Contact the local Valuation Office and ask if they know. They often have a website which might provide the information
    7. Contact The Land Registry and for around £7 they should be able to provide definitive detail
    8. If you haven't already done so, give us the name of the car park/site/location, we may have seen other cases there.
      Posted by @Umkomaas
      https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78322090/#Comment_78322090
      Posted by @Di67
      Here is my dog with a bone process:
      General method I used to identify and contact the landowner
      I started by Googling every business operating from the site, the building name itself, and any obvious managing agents or tenants. Wherever a phone number or email address existed, I made contact. When that stalled, I searched the business name on Companies House to identify the registered company and, crucially, the named directors. Companies house will give you the name of the solicitors who make the filings, I was cheeky and sent an email to the solicitor (FAO your client and Director of XYX Company). I also searched those individuals on Google, LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram. LinkedIn was the most useful, although it didn't provide direct contact details, it did provide information on other companies associated with the person I was trying to reach. From there, I visited the websites of those other companies, which is where I eventually found a working email address for the person I needed - so I emailed this address as well as via the solicitor. In short, Companies House gives you information on the company, the names of any directors and their business solicitor, pop the name into LinkedIn which will give you more lines of enquiry, and one of those lines will lead you to a contact.
  • Nellymoser
    Nellymoser Posts: 2,279 Forumite
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    This poster has already been given this advice.

    @monochromerainbow this is the 4th thread you've started about the same pcn. There is no need to start a new thread to ask a question especially one that you've already asked on your other 3 threads and been given advice on. Stick to one thread for queries relating to the one parking incident.

  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 19,517 Forumite
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    edited 10 February at 11:41AM

    It's improbable that the shop doesn't know who their own landlord is…I expect it's Home Bargains (i.e. T J Morris Limited) who are the owners given they carried out the development in the first place and the car park looks to be exclusive to them.

  • My apologies, Nelly. I have chronic debilitating memory problems and didn't realise I'd started 4 thread about this already and had run out of ideas. :( I am doing the best I can under really, really difficult circumstances.

    I've traced the email I sent TJ Morris at the beginning of October and they never replied so I have resent it. The lady on the phone said she couldn't tell me but the people answering the email certainly could so thanks everyone for your responses. I hope that'll get me somewhere now.

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