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ANOTHER notice in the SAME CP - this time its non-display due to 'flipped' ticket

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  • brutal_deluxe
    brutal_deluxe Posts: 198 Forumite
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    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for all the info and suggestions so far. SO the NTK has arrived. Is there anything I could use against them?

    NTKfront.jpg NTKback.jpeg

    Is it reasonable that this may never have arrived and could be used as a challenge?

    Is the POPLA window still open as the first appeal to the company was rejected and they mention 28 days from date of issue? Or are we going by the info on the NTK?

    Again any help appreciated

    BD

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 5 March at 4:24PM

    "Is it reasonable that this may never have arrived and could be used as a challenge?"

    No. That would be lying.

    The POPLA Code was issued on 4th Feb and lasts until day 33. So you have until Monday. I did already tell you this:

    "I would wait until around day 30 from the rejection letter (POPLA Codes always work for 33 days, NOT just 28)."

    However that looks like a POFA worded NTK, so personally - because they offered settlement at £20 - if it was me I would IGNORE CSPM because the first planned point for POPLA appeal has no legs and the rest is likely to fall on deaf ears.

    You'd get fairer dispute resolution in court and will likely never have to pay a penny, so ignore them and the £170 threatograms.

    Please DON'T show us those.

    Just tell CSPM if you move house and otherwise sit tight. CSPM are small fry based in Hereford and have never litigated.

    Did I say: DON'T show us the threatograms! We don't need to discuss the "ignore" stage (yet again) and it is fully covered - including pics of the £170 daft letters - in post 4 of NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST.

    What you also don't do is pay a scam to make it go away! Do NOTHING unless you fancy doing pointless POPLA merely to cost them money and to flush out a copy of the landowner authority.

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  • Castle
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    OP

    Have you compared the NTK to the NTD?

  • brutal_deluxe
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    Thanks @Coupon-mad so am I submitting a popla or no? Surely the points are a straight win?

  • Coupon-mad
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    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 7 March at 6:29PM

    Because a NTK arrived, the keeper only has these two points for POPLA:

    • The sign doesn't state which way up the ticket had to be displayed, only that it had to be purchased for the full time (it was) be 'valid' for the site and stay (it was) and 'displayed' on the windscreen (it was). Other operators include a specific term on their signage and/or in the ticket about which would be 'face up' but this operator has no such term. A consumer cannot breach a term that was not explicitly stated in the contract and (in UK law - the CRA 2015) any omission or ambiguity in terms must be interpreted in the way that most favours the consumer. See photo evidence of signs.
    • No landowner authority (put them to strict proof of full compliance and quote clause 14 of the Joint Code AND that CoP's Annex G about the example landowner authority document and what the purpose is, not the old para 7 of the BPA CoP).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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