We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Gift Card Purchases Using a Credit Card

2

Comments

  • grumpy_codger
    grumpy_codger Posts: 1,560 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 5 February at 1:09AM

    @TadleyBaggie
    The gift card company have no idea what your bank will do with the transaction.

    They have a very good idea as the bank's actions depend on the MCC provided by the company.

    BTW, for what it's worth, my gift cards from Everup, Quidco and Airtime had never been treated as cash by Lloyds CC, although they blocked big (several hundred) amounts (that Barclaycard allowed).

  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 23,928 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper

    Except the people responding may not have any knowledge of their catsic code. Just pop into any retailer & ask the person you are paying. 😜

    Life in the slow lane
  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 10,269 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper

    "catsic code"?

    There's a Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) code 0279-01 (Cats) for breeding and other services, but probably not what you mean.

  • superM
    superM Posts: 489 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker

    but gift card shouldn’t a cash transaction. Are these companies doing that to avoid paying the card transaction fees?

  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 10,269 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper

    The gift card sellers? Don't think so, they'll have a standard per transaction fee with the processors (like Zettle).

    The code they are sending is their MERCHANT CATEGORY code, so a description of their primary business. The banks and other credit card issuing institutions will then take a decision to categorise spending under that code as "cash advance" or not.

    In other words, the same CC purchase from the same retailer may be treated as "cash advance" using one card but not using another.

  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 23,928 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper

    You are buying a card with a cash value ONLY.

    Or to put it another way. You are exchanging credit for cash.

    Life in the slow lane
  • WillPS
    WillPS Posts: 5,504 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Newshound! Name Dropper

    That's a matter of opinion rather than a statement of fact tho, as evidenced by dfiferent issuers treating these MCCs differently.

  • DarthDaisy
    DarthDaisy Posts: 85 Forumite
    10 Posts Name Dropper First Anniversary

    You really do not want to be buying gift cards, especially now.

    Previously the cards were a rip off because they had these expiry dates and that was a reason to just never buy them. The bank of England gift cards which come in the form of bank notes are far better as they never expire, can be used in any shop and are easy to carry.

    Alternatively there is Bank Transfer.

    What is so bad at the moment is that Gift Cards are being targeted by criminals, essentially they are getting cards that have poor security (such as JL), recording the code, peeling off the code and gluing them back. They have been featured on several BBC consumer and money programmes.

    At some point we should hope these will be all put behind the counter like cigarettes and tobacco to prevent theft.

    There is a second con of those bought online, somehow they are being hacked and people are reporting that they are told the cards have already been redeemed.

    So with all these bad experiences why bother, I have been bought gift cards, they end up in a drawer or purse/bag and when I go to redeem them they have expired.

    With regard to your query, KEY TERMS such as interest rates and charges should be made prominently to you at the point of purchase BEFORE you press BUY button.

    Sounds like a Section 75 claim to me, they might use Chargeback in the first 120 days but make sure you ask for Section 75 claim from the outset so that if they try to weasel their way out you can do an FCA complaint on the grounds of Section 75.

    Alternatively, just accept you got stung, it is a few quid and now you know better.

    You can leave a 1 star review on Trustpilot for the website and then others will benefit from your warning.

  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 10,269 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper

    Your points are well made but largely irrelevant to the OP's original post.

    They were buying VIRTUAL gift cards online, so no physical card to be tampered with.

    You are correct that there have been cases where these virtual cards have been "hacked" and their balances stolen.

    The additional charge being discussed is that imposed by the credit card company, not the gift card retailer.

    S75 is not applicable where you are purchasing a gift card - the link between the retailer and the eventual purchase having been moved to an intermediary (the gift card provider).

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.5K Life & Family
  • 261.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.