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Dispersing of accounts as an executor

Hi

Any advice appreciated, so dispersing of accounts, I know I need to share statement of accounts & I’ve read it’s R185 form. Complete this and send the same copy to all 5 charities, please what do I get them to sign for completion or excepting their %\money, before transferring of funds.
I’m helping my mum who is elderly handling a friends estate, she’s in a real panic about it, it’s information overload.

thanks in advance

Jane

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  • Keep_pedalling
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    Form R185 is for informing beneficiaries of tax paid on estate income which may or may not be required. If the charities are the sole beneficiaries or the residual beneficiaries then the executor should provide them with a set of estate accounts which is not the same thing.

    Did the estate earn more than £500 while your mother was winding it up? Were the charities the only / residual beneficiaries or were they left fixed sums or percentages? Was probate required?

  • BooJewels
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    As @Keep_pedalling has mentioned, how you process the transaction perhaps depends on how much money is involved, whether it's a percentage as residuary beneficiaries or fixed donation etc.

    The last one I did was a fixed amount, so I didn't give them any accounts or paperwork, but they did have a system where you contacted them first via a form on their web site, to get a payment reference, so that they could tie your payment to the relevant benefactor - I then got an acknowledgement and thanks by email. That was enough to satisfy me that all was in order - the Will had specified that it should be receipted in some way.

    But had it been a greater sum and a percentage, I'd expect to jump through more hoops, provide accounts etc.

    If you applied for Probate, large charities do monitor granted Probates and read Wills, looking for any legacies, so they'll know the outline size of the estate and what they're set to receive, in those cases.

  • poseidon1
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    Did the estate generate income during the administration period which the executor then went on to settle income tax thereon?

    If there was no taxed estate income, then no potential tax to be recovered by the charities which would be the purpose of an R185 in their regard. A note to this effect in the estate accounts would be all that is needed.

    Of course if there was taxed estate income the R185s are then required, but this should be a relatively straight forward excercise, given the guidance notes embedded within the form.

    Hopefully the executor has a reasonably clear template for the format and presentation of the estate accounts, assuming they may only have rudimentary knowledge of double entry bookkeeping and how to set out income and capital estate transactions.

    See below general guidance on how to deal with estates where charities are the primary beneficiaries -

    https://www.ashfords.co.uk/insights/articles/how-to-administer-a-legacy-to-charity#:~:text=Executors%20should%20provide%20a%20signed,they%20have%20received%20the%20R185.

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