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transfered mother in laws house to my wife and sister 15 years ago to avoid future care home costs

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My mother in law was widowed 15 years ago. We felt it was prudent to transfer house ownership to my wife and her sister to avoid any future issues with future care home costs. In November 2025 my MIL was struggling to live on her own so was put into a care home. No chance of her returning to her house I'm afraid, so we have put the house on the market.We have now sold it (not completed yet but about to) but are concerned about the council having a retrospective claim against the sale proceeds to pay for the care costs. How do i resolve this to understand what is the correct financial situation for my wife/her sister following the proceeds received from the house sale? Location is North West England if that makes any difference!
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  • elsien
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    edited 11 January at 9:21AM
    Hang on to the money until any financial assessment is complete in case the council do make a retrospective charge. 

    No one can give you a definitive answer as it’s based very much on individual circumstances, but there is no time limit to how far the local authority can check, and decisions will be based on the motivation and circumstances at the time. Which given that you say avoiding care costs was the only reason…….

    https://www.ageuk.org.uk/siteassets/documents/factsheets/fs40_deprivation_of_assets_in_social_care_fcs.pdf

    I presume you considered any tax implications? 
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  • huckster
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    You are looking for financial legal advice, which nobody should provide on this site, as you might rely on it and end up in a legal nightmare.

    You might want to clarify what help you are looking for.

    Is your question. How likely is it that the Council will pick up the change in ownership 15 years ago and see that a deliberate attempt has been made to claim payment of care home fees from the Council?

    And this then raises the question of what was said on the recent forms completed to the Council when claiming Care Home fees?  Who completed the forms? MiL? Your wife or Sister?

    I would want to know what was said on recent forms completed for Care Home fees. If you don't have copies, then whoever completed them needs to ask the council for a copy for their records.

    And once you have details of what has been advised to the Council, then get some local legal paid for advice. 

    I don't think family can pass on ownership of property in this way to avoid Care Home fees, but I may be wrong as I am not legally qualified and do not know any recent case law.




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  • HouseMartin567
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    Agree with the above, I think you’ll just need to wait and see if the council come after you - although the fact the transfer was made 15 years ago works in your favour.

    On the assumption your wife wasn’t living with MIL, I presume you are aware there is CGT to pay on any increase in the property value (minus allowed deductions)?
  • subjecttocontract
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    ......and you have a limited time after sale completion to pay HMRC any CGT due .....I think it's 60 days.
  • QrizB
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    My mother in law was widowed 15 years ago. We felt it was prudent to transfer house ownership to my wife and her sister to avoid any future issues with future care home costs.
    Did you take any professional advice at the time that you transferred it?
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    What was your M-I-Ls health like 15 yrs ago.  If she had long term health issues that were likely to deteriorate and result in a level of care required, then your attempt to avoid care home cost will not work, even more so if this is the case. 

    It will be argueed that it is obvious that youve tried to avoid the costs, and as there is no limit then the council will be well within their rights to take it into account when they complete the financial review. 

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  • UnsureAboutthis
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    edited 12 January at 11:34AM
    Hello

    This is my take on this, but every assessment by anyone is always going to have a slightly
    different outcome depending on how eager the assessor/council is needing the money

    My questions would be:

    Did mum pay any rent, and if so, is there a financial trail?
    What was Mum's health like 15 years ago, ie was she completely independent and able
    to use public transport, cook, clean, dress, and be mentally and physically able.
    finally, was the gift made in order to avoid care home fees?

    The 7 year tax rule for IHT does not apply to care
    home fees. The council can look back as far as they feel is necessary.
    Gifting assets/property, etc., to avoid potential care home
    fees, if established, will be seen as 'deprivation of assets.'

    I'm sure you are aware of the above. 
    Have you or did you take legal advice before the house was gifted, or now?

    It is difficult to say and no one can tell you what the outcome
    of any financial assessment will be.

    So wait until you know who is paying for what.

    When is the financial assessment due?

    The link below, I hope it helps, but until there is an outcome to any financial assessment, it
    is hard to guess.

    https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/care/paying-for-care/financial-assessment/



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