Cost of kWh for Landlord?

faringdon

Hi,
I live in a block of forty flats, all owned by the same landlord. We all pay £600/month and that includes all bills. We all have Dimplex 750W heaters in our rooms....

https://www.electricpoint.com/dimplex-plxe-plx075e-750w-panel-heater-advanced-ecodesign-compliant.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Heat%20%7C%20Dimplex%20%7C%20PLXE%20%7C%20ROAS&utm_id=16871785881&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=16871785881&gbraid=0AAAAADzQ9s0fZHdjSVpE8CVJqYw1Wr0ze&gclid=CjwKCAiA64LLBhBhEiwA-PxguyKzs7BYKlHfXnFfwpxDf4U3dSMgqiFSVcrsaHELtgM90M8rXuN-KhoCDK0QAvD_BwE


...The cost of a kWh in UK on google is 28p.
But won't our landlord be able to get some discount due to the number of rooms?

Also, our heaters allow us to set the temperature, but dont show the actual wattage being used at any time...i am surprised about this.

Scot_39

Market rates - whatever the landlord's account basis - do not come into your deal - for an energy inclusive rent deal.  

You pay the inclusive rent figure.

The same in some sense whether you use 1kWh per day or 10 kWh per day or in the unlikely event the heater never hit its thermostat setpoint 18 kWh max from the heater - and all other energy use (Hot water for washing, showers, cooking etc).  

(In reality the landlord will I guess take the average energy, water etc cost across all the flats - and factor into rent)

Most heaters do not monitor their own power / energy consumption. 

(Some high end modern NSH heaters do, inclding Dimplex models that share the same common controller as your panels - but doesnt seem to be as comprehnsive on these panels - from e.g. 

https://help.gdhv.co.uk/support/solutions/articles/79000137055-what-does-the-letters-numbers-report-screen-mean-on-my-panel-heater-

)

Plus as above I assume you have access to hot water and cooking facilities etc in either your room or shared bathrooms/kitchen facilities.

My HW - for washing and the shower - annually uses similar if not more energy - than my winter heating for 3-4 months.

Example - a 10min electric shower if modest 9kW power - uses 1.5 kWh - the same energy as your panel would in 2 hours if were drawing power continuously (many convection panels tend to cycle on thermostat - so even longer).  

DeeQS

You probably have a good deal. I have a EPC B, 2 bed apartment, new build well insulated. Panel electronic heaters (the most expensive heating type you can have) and winter months with the heating only on 19c, can easily cost £250 a month for electricity.

QrizB

faringdon said:

I live in a block of forty flats, all owned by the same landlord. We all pay £600/month and that includes all bills.

That's a pretty good deal.

Robin9

I too think you have got a good deal

The unit rate that the landlord pays is only part of his electricity bill.   He will be paying a standing charge of perhaps £5 a DAY (domestic is about 50p)   plus VAT at 20% (domestic is 5%).   In addition he is allowed to recover his costs of installation, maintenance and billing. He must not make a profit.

QrizB

Energy board regulars should note the OP has a track record of asking odd questions on other boards and then not coming back with follow up info, so try not to get too invested.

WiserMiser

That's not a good deal - it's utterly fantastic !  Here in Kent a typical price is £1,350 per month exclusive.  Is it in Middlesbrough?

elsien

Are you no longer in the HMO then?
I was wondering how you know what all the other 39 tenants pay? 

matelodave

Be careful what you wish for. It looks like you have the bargain of the century

You might find that having a bit of a stir will prompt the landlord to install meters to all the flats or even insist that you get you own independent supply

Its amazing how feeling a bit hard done by, or thinking that other people are benefitting more than you can come back and bite you if you stir it up a bit. Its quite often better to just leave things as they are

I've seen it happen often when a complaint or whinge has not only backfired but had much wider unforeseen consequences often to a lot more people than just the whinger.

For example, my bro lived in a place where the energy costs were rolled up into the rent so everyone paid the same. One or two had a whinge that  as they were not at home all day or other flats had more people etc  they should get a reduction. The landlord decided that, rather than fielding complains and doing some sums, it was fairer that everyone would have their own metered supply.
It significantly increased the bills for every one (including the whingers) and made it even worse for those who were at home all day or needed to keep the place warm all day because of age or children.