Suzuki Swift 1.2 Hybrid Allgrip 4x4 2020

WIAWSNB

Thoughts on this baby?

Is the 1.2 a good one, or is it potentially plagued with a wet cam? 

Suzuki are obviously renowned for their 4x4, so I presume there will be no concerns about this permanent system? 

Ta. 

Ayr_Rage

Cams need to be wet, with oil, at all times.

Cambelts are a different kettle of fish.

facade

As far as I know Suzuki use cam chains in all their engines since around 2000. The (very) mild hybrid has a pretty good reputation.

They always used to make very good car engines that easily outlasted the bodywork, recently they have started substituting a lot of plastic parts for aluminium ones though, which concerns me since I have a 2019 Suzuki with a K15 engine sat on the drive- the amount of plastic on the engine is frightening! (They have only been around for 7 years which isn't long enough to tell how good the plastic is, when it lasts 25 years or more I'll be satisfied)

I don't think there are sufficient ties between Stellantis & Suzuki to worry that they will use the puretech, they used to be big mates with Vauxhall in the early 2000s- the Wagon R & Rascal were pretty much identical whether badged as Suzuki or Vauxhall/Bedford.

 

Willberry

Suzuki use timing chains so no need to worry about wet belts. I'm now on my 4th Suzuki in 9 years ( 1 Vitara and 3 Swifts) and I've never had a problem of any kind with any of them.

WIAWSNB

Cam ma botty. I mean, belt ma botty.
Thanks all - looks a contender. 

fatbelly

Though Suzukis have a good reputation for reliability, I'd be nervous about a 6-yo hybrid with 4wd

Would she not be better with a more basic car, possibly newer and less miles, for the same money - and a lower insurance group?

daveyjp

Suzukis now benefit from the same warranty system as Toyota.  Have it serviced at a main dealer and you will receive a one year warranty up to the tenth service/100,000 miles.

WIAWSNB

fatbelly said:

Though Suzukis have a good reputation for reliability, I'd be nervous about a 6-yo hybrid with 4wd

Would she not be better with a more basic car, possibly newer and less miles, for the same money - and a lower insurance group?

Good point - it is quite a high category, and I will get some actual quotes. 

Bottom line - she will soon be earning reasonably well, and we'll be buying the actual car, so in the overall scheme of things, it won't be a lot more in terms of running costs for a 'good' car. 

forgotmyname

Earning reasonably well is not MSE when the insurance is triple that of a more comparible vehicle without the hybrid system.

Looking for a mid sized SUV with 4WD and thought about a Mitsubishi Outlander hybrid. Just shy of £1000 where my

2L diesel was £312 insurance. Bought a Honda non Hybrid and that only increased the insurance by £46.

Is that the CVT gearbox that needs regular 3year or 30k mile servicing?

WIAWSNB

Thanks, fmn and others.

Swift 4x4 off the table. 

Looking at sensible cars like the i10. 

Mildly_Miffed

fatbelly said:

Though Suzukis have a good reputation for reliability, I'd be nervous about a 6-yo hybrid with 4wd

4wd Suzuki hatches are popular round here in deep rural Welsh borders. Because 4wd is actually USEFUL (often essential).

If you don't need it, though, don't get it. Get fwd instead.

And remember that fwd with all-season tyres will be better in most UK winter conditions than 4wd with summer tyres...