Cupboard door not closing

tony3619

Hello, 

So I have one cupboard door that is refusing to shut even after trying to adjust all the hinges. 

I've attached some photos. 

Any ideas? 🤔 

Cheers 

vacheron

This should help.

ButterCheese

Good diagram above.  Before you start I would give all the hinges a go with some WD40 or even just soapy water and a stiff brush, they look a bit greasy.  All the little screws and moving plates will move easier if they're clean.  

Ideally get someone to help you hold the door in place when you make the adjustments - at least one of the setting plates has an open end and the screw can pop out if you're not careful.  Just adjust/unscrew slowly and marginally.  Also check to see if the actual bracket is secure in the cabinet; if old they can bore out the hole they are in which will make the hinges loose.  You may have to stick a small wall plug or glue some dowel in to tighten up the hole, or even stick a match stick or something in there

tony3619

ButterCheese said:

Good diagram above.  Before you start I would give all the hinges a go with some WD40 or even just soapy water and a stiff brush, they look a bit greasy.  All the little screws and moving plates will move easier if they're clean.  

Ideally get someone to help you hold the door in place when you make the adjustments - at least one of the setting plates has an open end and the screw can pop out if you're not careful.  Just adjust/unscrew slowly and marginally.  Also check to see if the actual bracket is secure in the cabinet; if old they can bore out the hole they are in which will make the hinges loose.  You may have to stick a small wall plug or glue some dowel in to tighten up the hole, or even stick a match stick or something in there

My only confusion is trying to adjust the "horizontal screw" do I need to remove the door angle screw before as it doesn't budget otherwise,?

Heedtheadvice

Noting on your pix an ( old?) screw hole. If the hinge has been repositioned a distance away from what was the correct position then that could  be the problem. There isikely to be i sufficient adjustment left to get the hinge back to position.

A repair into the original position might solve it!

Alderbank

vacheron said:

This should help.

It might have helped if it was the same sort of hinge, but it's not.

The OP's pictures look to me to be a very specialised hinge, the FGV 175.
http://v1web.nordeko.lv/en/door-hinges/hinge-fgv-175-569/
These were intended for use on one of the pair of doors on a corner cupboard, to allow one leaf of the door to fold back on itself.

One of the two hinges shown seems to have been relocated about 10mm further into the cupboard. Is that correct?

WIAWSNB

Hi Tony.

When did this issue start? Was it sudden, or getting worse slowly? 

Usually one of two causes - the first is addressed above; adjustment. This can give a situation known as 'hinge bound', where the hinge side of the door makes contact with the cupboard frame before the door is fully closed, so it cannot shut fully. This is usually pretty easy to spot, as the hinge side of the door shouldn't actually make contact with the cupboard frame when the door is closed. Can you check - show a photo - is there a small gap?

The other commonish cause is a sprung hinge simply fails, and instead of pulling the door closed at the last moment, it can instead repel the door from closing. You can usually tell this by the feel from the door. Or, undo each hinge in turn - ie separate them, leaving each part in place - the door and the cupboard. Then shut the actual hinge with your hand (without trapping your finger). Does it act against a spring when almost closed, and then - as you push it beyond this - now act the other way to snap the hinge shut? 

tony3619

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Tony.

When did this issue start? Was it sudden, or getting worse slowly? 

Usually one of two causes - the first is addressed above; adjustment. This can give a situation known as 'hinge bound', where the hinge side of the door makes contact with the cupboard frame before the door is fully closed, so it cannot shut fully. This is usually pretty easy to spot, as the hinge side of the door shouldn't actually make contact with the cupboard frame when the door is closed. Can you check - show a photo - is there a small gap?

The other commonish cause is a sprung hinge simply fails, and instead of pulling the door closed at the last moment, it can instead repel the door from closing. You can usually tell this by the feel from the door. Or, undo each hinge in turn - ie separate them, leaving each part in place - the door and the cupboard. Then shut the actual hinge with your hand (without trapping your finger). Does it act against a spring when almost closed, and then - as you push it beyond this - now act the other way to snap the hinge shut? 

Basically if I detached the top hinge from the cupboard and just close with the bottom it seems fine. 

The top hinge tends to feel like it drops slightly when not being held. This is back up by the fact that if I lift the door it will shut. 

tony3619

Alderbank said:

vacheron said:

This should help.

It might have helped if it was the same sort of hinge, but it's not.

The OP's pictures look to me to be a very specialised hinge, the FGV 175.
http://v1web.nordeko.lv/en/door-hinges/hinge-fgv-175-569/
These were intended for use on one of the pair of doors on a corner cupboard, to allow one leaf of the door to fold back on itself.

One of the two hinges shown seems to have been relocated about 10mm further into the cupboard. Is that correct?

I tried moving the hinge to correct it that's why there is other holes. Where it is now is the original position 

WIAWSNB

tony3619 said:

Basically if I detached the top hinge from the cupboard and just close with the bottom it seems fine. 

The top hinge tends to feel like it drops slightly when not being held. This is back up by the fact that if I lift the door it will shut. 

Hmm, sounds like worn out pivot pins. The hinge should be firm in use; no wobble, no flex, no dropping. 

When you detach it so you can move it by itself, how much up/down 'play' is there? And is the movement 'springy' - ie you are 'forcing' it, or is there lost movement?