Speeding ticket

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photome said:

daveyjp said:

diveunderthebonnet said:

TooManyPoints said:

...the person doing the course said the 10% plus 2 is an old wifes tale ,some police forces charge you if only 2 miles over the limit.

The person doing the course is talking cobblers.

All forces in England & Wales (and Scotland as well, as far as I know) subscribe to the ACPO (now NPCC) guidance on speeding enforcement. Whilst this emphasises that it does not override any individual officer’s discretion it states that in normal circumstances enforcement should not take place below (Limit + 10% + 2mph).

The guidance is in this document:

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf

I subscribe to a number of motoring forums and have also witnessed many speeding prosecutions in court. I have never seen a verified case where enforcement has been taken below the guidance threshold.

Well my ex-boss must be unlucky as i was talking to him today and he got done for doing 75 mph on a motorway so 5 mph over the limit, he got a Driving awareness course but no points.

Motorway limit could have been lower than 70 when he was caught.

Would he have been offered a course doing 75 in a 60

10%+9 is the guideline for courses, so a course will be offered for speeds up to and including 75 in a 60.

WYSPECIAL

photome said:

daveyjp said:

diveunderthebonnet said:

TooManyPoints said:

...the person doing the course said the 10% plus 2 is an old wifes tale ,some police forces charge you if only 2 miles over the limit.

The person doing the course is talking cobblers.

All forces in England & Wales (and Scotland as well, as far as I know) subscribe to the ACPO (now NPCC) guidance on speeding enforcement. Whilst this emphasises that it does not override any individual officer’s discretion it states that in normal circumstances enforcement should not take place below (Limit + 10% + 2mph).

The guidance is in this document:

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf

I subscribe to a number of motoring forums and have also witnessed many speeding prosecutions in court. I have never seen a verified case where enforcement has been taken below the guidance threshold.

Well my ex-boss must be unlucky as i was talking to him today and he got done for doing 75 mph on a motorway so 5 mph over the limit, he got a Driving awareness course but no points.

Motorway limit could have been lower than 70 when he was caught.

Would he have been offered a course doing 75 in a 60

Yes they would usually offer a course for that unless there was some reason not to. 

diveunderthebonnet

daveyjp said:

diveunderthebonnet said:

TooManyPoints said:

...the person doing the course said the 10% plus 2 is an old wifes tale ,some police forces charge you if only 2 miles over the limit.

The person doing the course is talking cobblers.

All forces in England & Wales (and Scotland as well, as far as I know) subscribe to the ACPO (now NPCC) guidance on speeding enforcement. Whilst this emphasises that it does not override any individual officer’s discretion it states that in normal circumstances enforcement should not take place below (Limit + 10% + 2mph).

The guidance is in this document:

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf

I subscribe to a number of motoring forums and have also witnessed many speeding prosecutions in court. I have never seen a verified case where enforcement has been taken below the guidance threshold.

Well my ex-boss must be unlucky as i was talking to him today and he got done for doing 75 mph on a motorway so 5 mph over the limit, he got a Driving awareness course but no points.

Motorway limit could have been lower than 70 when he was caught.

No it was 70mph.

If the Limit + 10% +2 is ok then always driving at 78 mph on a motorway will be ok as 1 mph under the limit for a conviction.

TooManyPoints

If the Limit + 10% +2 is ok...

It isn’t OK. The limit is the limit. The police do not normally take enforcement action below (Limit + 10% + 2mph) for reasons that are explained in their guidance document that I provided. But they can if they want to. 

…driving at 78 mph on a motorway will be ok as 1 mph under the limit for a conviction.

The limit for a conviction is not 79mph. That is the threshold below which the police will not normally take action. But any speed above the limit is sufficient to secure a conviction provided the police have evidence to satisfy a court that an offence was committed.