Travel to Trump's America

prodigy9

TELLIT01 said:

It won't worry Trump as he will just say 'do it', but I'd love to know how a system for checking social media of hundreds of thousands of people will be created in the short time scale he wants.

Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there. I'm sure all the false positives will be thoroughly investigated and passed as harmless and won't end up a S. American prison.

eskbanker

prodigy9 said:
Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there.

Sarcasm and satire can be tricky to discern in the written word, especially without any indicators of humour such as emojis, etc, but I'm assuming that this isn't a serious suggestion that the screening is specifically for references to Trump personally!

Neil49

We got our estas in August and flew into Newark, New York mid September. We ignored the social media section as it was optional. At immigration they weren't interested in our phones (or anything else for that matter) just as long as we had a return flight booked. Queuing time was about 2 minutes.

If you want to take extra precautions you could always uninstall the social media apps that are of concern and reload them once you are through border control. Have a nice day. 

prodigy9

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:
Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there.

Sarcasm and satire can be tricky to discern in the written word, especially without any indicators of humour such as emojis, etc, but I'm assuming that this isn't a serious suggestion that the screening is specifically for references to Trump personally!

No I'm not being sarcastic. Why else would they be screening the social media residents of allies in the land of free speech. Anyway, this thread has taken a turn.

eskbanker

prodigy9 said:

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:
Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there.

Sarcasm and satire can be tricky to discern in the written word, especially without any indicators of humour such as emojis, etc, but I'm assuming that this isn't a serious suggestion that the screening is specifically for references to Trump personally!

No I'm not being sarcastic. Why else would they be screening the social media residents of allies in the land of free speech.

Even the arch-narcissist himself wouldn't be introducing a policy like this just to find out what people are saying about him!  The stated intention of such measures is to target "those who advocate for, aid, or support designated foreign terrorists and other threats to national security; or who perpetrate unlawful anti-Semitic harassment or violence" rather than those saying nasty things considered to be uncomplimentary about the occupant of the White House, so the notion that such assessments would be based around a text search for one key word really isn't a credible proposition....

zagfles

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:
Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there.

Sarcasm and satire can be tricky to discern in the written word, especially without any indicators of humour such as emojis, etc, but I'm assuming that this isn't a serious suggestion that the screening is specifically for references to Trump personally!

No I'm not being sarcastic. Why else would they be screening the social media residents of allies in the land of free speech.

Even the arch-narcissist himself wouldn't be introducing a policy like this just to find out what people are saying about him!  The stated intention of such measures is to target "those who advocate for, aid, or support designated foreign terrorists and other threats to national security; or who perpetrate unlawful anti-Semitic harassment or violence" rather than those saying nasty things considered to be uncomplimentary about the occupant of the White House, so the notion that such assessments would be based around a text search for one key word really isn't a credible proposition....

Well that's a relief after I've been slagging off Judd Trump for losing to Selby...

Woodstok2000

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:

eskbanker said:

prodigy9 said:
Shouldn't be too hard. Not necessarily accurate but not hard. AI or a simple ctrl+f to search for Trump and go from there.

Sarcasm and satire can be tricky to discern in the written word, especially without any indicators of humour such as emojis, etc, but I'm assuming that this isn't a serious suggestion that the screening is specifically for references to Trump personally!

No I'm not being sarcastic. Why else would they be screening the social media residents of allies in the land of free speech.

Even the arch-narcissist himself wouldn't be introducing a policy like this just to find out what people are saying about him!  The stated intention of such measures is to target "those who advocate for, aid, or support designated foreign terrorists and other threats to national security; or who perpetrate unlawful anti-Semitic harassment or violence" rather than those saying nasty things considered to be uncomplimentary about the occupant of the White House, so the notion that such assessments would be based around a text search for one key word really isn't a credible proposition....

So you mean he wouldn't be doing things like this?

Scientist Banned From Entering US Over Opinions About Trump—Minister - Newsweek

TELLIT01

@eskbanker You have far more faith in Trump than I do.

eskbanker

zagfles said:

Well that's a relief after I've been slagging off Judd Trump for losing to Selby...

I'm sure there'll be plenty of bridge players concerned about being able to freely discuss their enthusiasm for No Trump contracts

Woodstok2000 said:
So you mean he wouldn't be doing things like this?

Scientist Banned From Entering US Over Opinions About Trump—Minister - Newsweek

The relevant authorities can obviously object to prominent political critics (there was also that notorious case of the tourist with the JD Vance meme on his phone) but they can clearly already do this, rather than having to introduce a new screening process.

TELLIT01 said:

@eskbanker You have far more faith in Trump than I do.

I'm not saying that I have faith that the new process wouldn't be misused, but was simply challenging the risibly simplistic idea that it would be implemented via a text search for the word 'Trump'!

prowla

We've had 3 not so UK-friendly presidents: Obama, Biden, and Trump since I had my unlimited visa in a previous passport.

I can see there being some benefit to gauging people's likelihood to break the law based on their social media profiles.

But the real problem with these sorts of measures is that the actual criminals/wrongdoers will probably have secret accounts to do their dodgy dealings via, so it's really more of a control over the law-abiding people.