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Home security - Locks

Hi,
After some advice regarding the above subject please. We have a porch door with a 1* eurocylinder lock - not particulary concerned about this as we tend to leave the porch door unlocked except for overnight and if away from home for an extended period.

The porch leads to a substantial front door which is fitted with a 3* euroclinder lock , this is our primary barrier against break ins.

The rear door from the utility room to the patio/garden is also a 3* lock but what I believe to be the weak point in the household security is a pair of upvc french windows which lead from the dining room also into the rear garden, these also have  standard eurocylinder locks on each door which I would happily upgrade to 3* versions but I wonder if there is any point . I can forsee anybody wanting to gain entry by-passing the locks and breaking the full length glass in the doors in order to get into the house.
Is my assumption correct or is it in fact worthwhile upgrading the French window locks and would doing that actually improve security? 

Thanks

Comments

  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 8,230 Forumite
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    Smashing windows is noisy and is very obviously criminal to any neighbour who looks out the window to see what all the noise is.  Double glazed windows with toughened glass are particularly difficult to smash.  If a thief can get into your house quietly, they will.
    You could also consider secondary locks mounted on the inside of the frames.  The locks and keys are usually pretty rubbish.  But you have to be on the inside to unlock them.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 29,507 Forumite
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    We had some UPVC French Doors replaced recently. They were about 25 years old. The whole locking system needed replacing ,so we decided to go the whole hog and have new ones.
    The installers just unlocked the old doors and lifted them off the hinges ! 
    They ( and the sales guy) said the new doors would be much more secure, as a lot of the old security weaknesses ( like the hinges) had been improved, including the locks themselves.
  • bjorn_toby_wilde
    bjorn_toby_wilde Posts: 737 Forumite
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    Have you considered using a Patlock ?

    We were burgled a few years back and the weak point was exactly where you highlighted - the patio doors. They snapped the lock and removed the barrel.

    @Ectophile is correct. Smashing the windows isn’t easy, it’s very noisy and will cover them in glass fragments. Forensically that’s not a good idea for them.

    We were advised by the police to use 3* locks and a Patlock. The Patlock is very quick and easy to fit and it stops them opening the doors even if the lock barrel is compromised. It comes with anti tamper door spindles for the door handles as well.
  • rubble2
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    edited Today at 10:10PM
    Have you considered using a Patlock ?

    We were burgled a few years back and the weak point was exactly where you highlighted - the patio doors. They snapped the lock and removed the barrel.

    @Ectophile is correct. Smashing the windows isn’t easy, it’s very noisy and will cover them in glass fragments. Forensically that’s not a good idea for them.

    We were advised by the police to use 3* locks and a Patlock. The Patlock is very quick and easy to fit and it stops them opening the doors even if the lock barrel is compromised. It comes with anti tamper door spindles for the door handles as well.
    Thanks, I will give the Patlock a look.
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