Investment scam, …elderly parent

poseidon1

zenshi said:

I’m not deliberately dripping details, just don’t know much, I’m sorry. I’ve seen the ad on FB but can’t seem to add pics on here. Advert claims it’s Bank of England approved, can only sign up using the ad, no other way! Claims you can earn up to £30k monthly. He paid with his bank card. After he signed up, they rang him to walk him through the process

The only detail he has about who they are is a website,

webtrader.Finsera.me

So minimally now these thieves have your father's debit card number, security code, email address, password etc. All your father now needs to do is post them a copy of his front door key to allow them access to his physical goods as well as digital assets.

Hopefully your father's anti virus provider has a service which provides alerts when one's personal details are circulated on the Dark Web,  Sounds like you may have a job  to try and forestall digital attacks on his bank account and email account in the very near future.

Martico

Find out the details of the process he was walked through, to see if there are any other sensitive things he's given them access to.
Aand contact his bank to let them know that fraudsters have his bank card details and ask what to do.
Warn your father that there's a risk now that the fraudsters will phone him, pretending to be from the bank's fraud prevention unit, and take more money. Ensure he knows the process to follow if he's unsure if the people.speaking are from the bank or not (the bank would be happy for him to hang up, make sure the line is clear, and then call them back on the phone number on the bank card /statement/website)

fwor

zenshi said:

The only detail he has about who they are is a website,

webtrader.Finsera.me

That domain name was first registered about 3 months ago, with a registration location (often irrelevant anyway) of Phoenix, Arizona - but the actual registrant details are of course hidden behind a privacy service (as are almost all scam websites).

I guess the only promising thing about it is that if he has only "made" £100 overnight, it probably means that he has not put in much money yet - so it could probably be worse.

elsien

How much money did your father give to them?

poseidon1

fwor said:

zenshi said:

The only detail he has about who they are is a website,

webtrader.Finsera.me

That domain name was first registered about 3 months ago, with a registration location (often irrelevant anyway) of Phoenix, Arizona - but the actual registrant details are of course hidden behind a privacy service (as are almost all scam websites).

I guess the only promising thing about it is that if he has only "made" £100 overnight, it probably means that he has not put in much money yet - so it could probably be worse.

The intial money likely not the primary objective.

They now have his bank card numbers and email login details, valuable resources to embark on a systematic fleecing operation, as unfortunate investors with Moneda Capital began to discover.

zenshi

Just been on phone with him. He can’t remember if he gave NI number but did give DOB. He gave £200, thankfully a relatively small amount.

my brother had rung him earlier with some choice words 😳 which prompted my dad to go into his bank. They told him it was concerning and said will issue new card. 

Swipe

That £200 could well turn out to be a fairly inexpensive lesson learnt.

LHW99

fwor said:

zenshi said:

The only detail he has about who they are is a website,

webtrader.Finsera.me

That domain name was first registered about 3 months ago, with a registration location (often irrelevant anyway) of Phoenix, Arizona - but the actual registrant details are of course hidden behind a privacy service (as are almost all scam websites).

I guess the only promising thing about it is that if he has only "made" £100 overnight, it probably means that he has not put in much money yet - so it could probably be worse.

The ".me" bit suggests Montenegro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.me

Heedtheadvice

Just one comment. Take note of the above warnings.

A few basics:

First off get in touch with the bank ( phone number on card) and explain the fraud on behalf of your father and get them to cancel the debit card. - an attempt to stop any further scam/ fraud action. Preferably from a landline or a different phone to the one he wS phoned on. Get the bank to post a new card but check that the address they have for him is still correct - in case the scammers have changed it with the bank already - so that he still has access to his account for money.

 Change all 'computer' passwords including smart phone if he has one. - reduce the risk of the scammers using his details. Probably more to do afterwards such as virus checks and make sure no remote control software has been added.

Inform and have a read of Action Fraud recommendations   ( or if in Scotland Police Scotland on 101.

In the nicest possible way try and educate your father. Maybe point him to the user friendly info at 

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/scams/reporting-a-scam/

Good luck

born_again

zenshi said:

Just been on phone with him. He can’t remember if he gave NI number but did give DOB. He gave £200, thankfully a relatively small amount.

my brother had rung him earlier with some choice words 😳 which prompted my dad to go into his bank. They told him it was concerning and said will issue new card. 

The next thing will be that he needs to provide full details for ID purposes & any hope of getting a refund. Best to just kiss the £200 good bye & not engage with them at all.