Any decent solar panel deals available?

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MforumSManE said:

Screwdriva said:

MforumSManE said:

I've recently has a solar panel and battery system installed. 22x Akio 480w panels + Tesla Battery + Tesla Gateway + Surge Protection + EV cable by MCS installer for £20k.

That's insanely overpriced. Installers I use to help others offer 22 X Eurener 500W bifacial panels + PW3 for £13.3K installed including bird netting, 10 year workmanship warranty and G99 application! 

No it isn't insanely overpriced for what I got, I did a lot of price checking with local suppliers and my system is more complex than a basic system.

My system includes the Tesla Gateway as well as the 13.5kw battery which needs an intelligent cable (3 core + comms), the Akio Panels are superior (higher output 480w per panel, better efficiency, smaller, lower weight), I don't need bifacial panels because I'm using Solar Skirt bird netting not the cheap mesh systems. My install needed quite complex scaffolding arrangement + a 20m trench dug and backfilled, also my price includes a 30m Intelligent (3 core + comms) EV cable at about £400 ish + Surge protection is included, which is usually missed off the most basic quotes.

What's the payback time on that lot?

MforumSManE

QrizB said:

MforumSManE said:

Screwdriva said:

MforumSManE said:

I've recently has a solar panel and battery system installed. 22x Akio 480w panels + Tesla Battery + Tesla Gateway + Surge Protection + EV cable by MCS installer for £20k.

That's insanely overpriced. Installers I use to help others offer 22 X Eurener 500W bifacial panels + PW3 for £13.3K installed including bird netting, 10 year workmanship warranty and G99 application! 

No it isn't insanely overpriced for what I got, I did a lot of price checking with local suppliers and my system is more complex than a basic system.

I'm glad you're happy but the price still seems mad.

Seems expensive I can understand, but is what you should be expecting to pay for a non standard system using higher quality components, if it was much less corners are being cut by your installer somewhere.

MforumSManE

Swipe said:

MforumSManE said:

Screwdriva said:

MforumSManE said:

I've recently has a solar panel and battery system installed. 22x Akio 480w panels + Tesla Battery + Tesla Gateway + Surge Protection + EV cable by MCS installer for £20k.

That's insanely overpriced. Installers I use to help others offer 22 X Eurener 500W bifacial panels + PW3 for £13.3K installed including bird netting, 10 year workmanship warranty and G99 application! 

No it isn't insanely overpriced for what I got, I did a lot of price checking with local suppliers and my system is more complex than a basic system.

My system includes the Tesla Gateway as well as the 13.5kw battery which needs an intelligent cable (3 core + comms), the Akio Panels are superior (higher output 480w per panel, better efficiency, smaller, lower weight), I don't need bifacial panels because I'm using Solar Skirt bird netting not the cheap mesh systems. My install needed quite complex scaffolding arrangement + a 20m trench dug and backfilled, also my price includes a 30m Intelligent (3 core + comms) EV cable at about £400 ish + Surge protection is included, which is usually missed off the most basic quotes.

What's the payback time on that lot?

About 11.3 years, I have relatively high energy usage.

Screwdriva

QrizB said:

I'm glad you're happy but the price still seems mad.

There is simply no level of complexity that could warrant that.

- Solaskirt costs £1300 installed over bird netting. 
- Eurener 500W bifacial panels outperform Aiko 480W in real world conditions and in lab conditions (hence the peak rating). And they're not Owned by or Made in China.
- Digging a trench is £200 for a laborer per day plus any equipment rental
- Surge protection and gateway is included in the above figure. 

I am not seeing any justification for a quote above £15K (include all costs/ installer profit etc.) Payback should occur well under 7 years for high consumption households with PW3 installations.... but I am glad you're happy too. 

MforumSManE

Screwdriva said:

QrizB said:

I'm glad you're happy but the price still seems mad.

There is simply no level of complexity that could warrant that.

- Solaskirt costs £1300 installed over bird netting. 
- Eurener 500W bifacial panels outperform Aiko 480W in real world conditions and in lab conditions (hence the peak rating). And they're not Owned by or Made in China.
- Digging a trench is £200 for a laborer per day plus any equipment rental
- Surge protection and gateway is included in the above figure. 

I am not seeing any justification for a quote above £15K. Payback should occur well under 7 years for high consumption households with PW3 installations.... but I am glad you're happy too. 

Hardware / Scafolding / Trench Work / Powerwall Plinth / Insurances Documentation etc about £14,700 + £1,500 labour (3.5 days) = £16,200 - £20,000 = £3,800 installer profit & their costs etc