Is it worth appealing?

aimz411

Hi all, before I begin I do want to say that I have indeed read all the advice and steps included on the main website as well as the pinned thread here. 

I’m disabled so I’m a bit unclear still. 

I received a postal PCN from a company called ‘Premier Park’, they are a member of the BPA. 

As far as I can tell, they have included everything they should and used correct wording in the letter according to POFA. So there’s nowhere I think that I can catch them on a loophole. 

The PCN claims that I parked my car for 16 minutes in a private car park without paying. 

I do not really recall the day, but I know that I never got out of the car. 
As mentioned, I’m disabled. I have quite severe PTSD but unfortunately still don’t have a blue badge. I’ve attempted to get one a number of times but the council want me to jump through endless hoops. I end up too overwhelmed and too exhausted to fight. I fear a similar situation is unfolding here.

I’m pretty sure that I parked up, didn’t dare get out the car and ended up going home. I am not clear on what their grace period is. I’m guessing it must be 10-15 minutes? 

Whatever the case, I don’t have a blue badge. I have no way to prove that I never left my car. And even if I did, would they care? Unlikely. 

The car park in question is a local park. I assumed the local council owned the land but they don’t. It’s apparently the ‘town estates’ land, I was given their details and have tried to call many times. It always goes to voicemail. I left a message requesting a call back last week. Nothing. 

I’d hoped I could plead my case with them and maybe they’d get the charge waived. 

I’ve now gone over the 14 day period for the reduced charge. I’ve received a second letter this morning. 

Honestly, I’ve struggled to mentally process the information dump online. 

Do I bother sending the template provided here? The parking companies online appeals page says that it’s my only chance to appeal and provide all information. 

Do I send the ‘one size fits all’ template? Do I edit it and include other information? 

I feel that I probably have no leg to stand on, but £100 for 16 minutes? When I’m disabled and on benefits. Struggling to live. When I never even got out the car? 

It’s a difficult situation to accept. 

Gr1pr

What is the alleged contravention shown on the NTK PCN letter   ?

Ps, I fail to see how having a blue badge would have changed anything about this case

Coupon-mad

Just ignore them. You'll never pay a penny.

aimz411

Gr1pr said:

What is the alleged contravention shown on the NTK PCN letter   ?

Ps, I fail to see how having a blue badge would have changed anything about this case

I guess that’s true, in regard to the blue badge. 

Perhaps I thought that it might legitimise any claim I made about my reasoning due to disability. 

The contravention on the NTK reads - 
‘The reason we issued this Parking Charge is as follows: Whole Period Of Parking Not Paid For (ANPR)’ 

It also mentions how the vehicle was ‘parked on private land in breach of the terms and conditions at the named car park’.

Coupon-mad

Honestly do nothing.

Come back if you get a claim form.

aimz411

Coupon-mad said:

Just ignore them. You'll never pay a penny.

The second letter I received this morning begins by saying ‘We want to avoid your case being passed to a Debt Collector. You must respond now or we will have no other choice.’

Gr1pr

aimz411 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Just ignore them. You'll never pay a penny.

The second letter I received this morning begins by saying ‘We want to avoid your case being passed to a Debt Collector. You must respond now or we will have no other choice.’

And the debt collectors are powerless,  nothing they can do,  so as coupon mad stated 

IGNORE THEM 

aimz411

Thank you both. It’s so sad that these companies can bully and harass people. I’m sure there are many vulnerable people just like me who fall to the pressure and fear mongering. 

I do recall receiving a fine from a private parking company over ten years ago and just ignored it. I believe I found that advice on this website. However it seems that the laws around these charges have changed now? That was what confused me. 

Am I to expect years of letters now? 

Gr1pr

Correct,  but ignore the powerless debt collectors letters and come back to this thread if or when you receive a Letter of Claim giving you 30 days notice,  or a Money Claim,  within the next 6 years 

Coupon-mad

aimz411 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Just ignore them. You'll never pay a penny.

The second letter I received this morning begins by saying

 ‘We want to avoid your case being passed to a Debt Collector. You must respond now or we will have no other choice.’

LOL! But  you don't want to 'avoid' getting those daft letters. You want them.

Bring it on and don't show us the £170 threatograms. Please spare us! We never ever want to see the false debt demands.

See the pics in post 4 of the NEWBIES thread first. Come back when you get a Claim Form.

1505grandad

FYI  -  there is no "fine" involved  -  merely a speculative invoice issued by an unregulated scammer.

The Blue Badge is not applicable on private land but the Equality Act 2010 most certainly is:-

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016364/rights-and-responsibilities-easy-read.pdf

"The badge is for parking on the street.

It does not apply to car parks."