Obtaining a copy of my property deeds.

vic_sf49

Edited to add, just spotted you have a copy of your title plan etc. 

As you already have a copy of your deeds, and they don't help you, you could check your neighbour's. 

If neither set of deeds have the info, then chat with the neighbour, and come up with a plan. 

Land_Registry

Very much something neighbours should discuss and agree upon - you will very rarely find anything definitive in law to state who is responsible for which boundary
For example OP looked after one side and the neighbour the other. That's fine and works but could all change when one of you moves on. Most 'don't know' as your own seller stated as replacing fences isn't a frequent event
The deeds for a registered property are the register and title plan. Most won't even mention boundaries/fences specifically. Some may fer to 'filed' deeds or include covenants on the actual register which then refer but often such things are decades old and new owners have done something different so again not always of much help when it comes to who is responsible for what
We've tried to explain all this in an online blog - Drawing the line on boundaries – HM Land Registry 
But as posted it's really all about what you and your neighbours can agree on and that will not only rely on registered information but also wider understanding as well as what each of you might want to do, can afford and so on. The answer is invariably closer to home and not elsewhere

tribetown

sheramber said:

I always understood the fence belonged to whoever out it up.

The person who had the fence put up died and a new owner has moved in.

tribetown

eddddy said:

tribetown said:

I bought this property over 10 years ago and my solicitor at the time was unable to find out who owned the boundary fences, I replaced the one on the left of my property a few years ago, the neighbours behind replaced theirs last year. The one on the right, my previous neighbour said it was his, the new neighbour is not sure.

If somebody puts up a fence, they would typically put it up on their own side of the boundary. So can you tell if the fence posts are on your side of the boundary, or on your neighbour's side of the boundary?

But taking a step back, why are you asking?

For example, if the fence belongs to your neighbour and it's in poor condition, it's up to the neighbour whether they do anything about it. It's unlikely that you can force them to do anything.

If you want the fence replaced or repaired, perhaps the best solution is to discuss it with your neighbour and agree what should be done, and who should pay or whether the cost should be split, etc

When I moved in I had the posts showing, he had the good side, when that fell down he had a new fence fitted with the fence panels fitted to the fence posts, so there is not a good or bad side if you know what I mean.
He died and the new owner has not wanted to talk to me.

With the fence at the rear, it blew down last year (pretty sure it is not mine as I have 2 neighbours behind me), the neighbour came round and I asked him in and offered to pay half, he was grateful for that, happy days.

tribetown

user1977 said:

tribetown said:

my solicitor at the time was unable to find out who owned the boundary fences

What makes you think any more information will have come to light since then?

Nothing,  I thought I would make a thread and see what information I could pick up.

eddddy

tribetown said:

When I moved in I had the posts showing, he had the good side, when that fell down he had a new fence fitted with the fence panels fitted to the fence posts, so there is not a good or bad side if you know what I mean.

He died and the new owner has not wanted to talk to me.

With the fence at the rear, it blew down last year (pretty sure it is not mine as I have 2 neighbours behind me), the neighbour came round and I asked him in and offered to pay half, he was grateful for that, happy days.

Just to clarify - my post didn't mention a 'good side' or 'bad side'.  I was asking which side of the boundary the fence was on.

i.e. is it just inside your garden, or is it just inside your neighbour's garden.

If it's just inside your garden, it's likely to be your fence. If it's just inside the neighbour's garden it's likely to be the neighbour's fence. If you look at each end of the fence, you might be able to tell whose land it is on.

tribetown said:

The person who had the fence put up died and a new owner has moved in.

So the dead person's house, garden and fence has now been sold to the new owner.

So the new owner of the house is also the new owner of the fence.





But why are you asking the question? It's worth bearing in mind that:

• The new owner of the fence (probably) isn't required to repair it

• You are not allowed to repair the neighbour's fence - unless they give you permission

• If the neighbour's fence is tatty or broken etc - you can construct a new fence on your side of the boundary, to hide the neighbour's fence, if you want

tribetown

eddddy said:

tribetown said:

When I moved in I had the posts showing, he had the good side, when that fell down he had a new fence fitted with the fence panels fitted to the fence posts, so there is not a good or bad side if you know what I mean.

He died and the new owner has not wanted to talk to me.

With the fence at the rear, it blew down last year (pretty sure it is not mine as I have 2 neighbours behind me), the neighbour came round and I asked him in and offered to pay half, he was grateful for that, happy days.

Just to clarify - my post didn't mention a 'good side' or 'bad side'.  I was asking which side of the boundary the fence was on.

i.e. is it just inside your garden, or is it just inside your neighbour's garden.

If it's just inside your garden, it's likely to be your fence. If it's just inside the neighbour's garden it's likely to be the neighbour's fence. If you look at each end of the fence, you might be able to tell whose land it is on.

I see, it is between our garages so it is not obvious. It looks evenly spaced between the 2 garages.

tribetown said:

The person who had the fence put up died and a new owner has moved in.

So the dead person's house, garden and fence has now been sold to the new owner.

So the new owner of the house is also the new owner of the fence.


I would have thought so but I am no expert.


But why are you asking the question? It's worth bearing in mind that:

• The new owner of the fence (probably) isn't required to repair it

• You are not allowed to repair the neighbour's fence - unless they give you permission

• If the neighbour's fence is tatty or broken etc - you can construct a new fence on your side of the boundary, to hide the neighbour's fence, if you want

Thank-you for letting me know the 3 points above.

I have my property on the market, hence I want it to look it's best, plus the longer it is left the more posts will become loose.

1) I am aware that he is not required to repair it.

2) I would not attempt to repair it without permission.

3) I had not thought of that.