Building regs replacement oil tank

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northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

Yes you can get fire safety tanks - the problem with that is the size, it won't go through the door. Behind the shed, is another shed, owned by a neighbour

If it isn't listed, take the roof off to lift the tank in, then put it back on?

WIAWSNB

northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

Hi NW.

I recall looking into this around 4-5 years back, as a house sil was looking at had no means of getting oil delivered directly to the tank in the enclosed back garden (The owners currently used a neighbouring plot, but permission could be withdrawn at any time).

One solution was to install a new tank inside the attached garage, which had a bedroom above it. It did require a specific type of tank designed for this - metal, obvs, and some additional enclosure. But, it indicates it can be done.

All you need to do is insist on it.

I'd contact other OFTEC(?) installers and ask them; give them the details - not necessarily the address - and ask what solutions there are. 

It should go without saying that the new tank will need to conform. Must. 

Do you know what the non-compliance issue is? What are these 'stone sheds'? Do folk tend to convert them? Any other possible locations? 

The oil tank i behind the brown door. The white door is another stone outbuilding which was converted to studio (shower etc) Doesn't have any use on it for living in. It's classed as a shed

Thank you.

I am not qualified in this area at all, but all I can say is that some 4-5 years ago, there was a solution which allowed an oil tank to be located within an enclosed and attached garage, with a bedroom above! 

It required a specialised tank, but it was doable. 

I cannot believe - and won't without evidence - that there isn't a 'conforming' solution to your much lesser situation there. So, insist. And carry out your own investigation by sending that pic to other qualified installers. 

Once you have evidence, give it to the vendor.

This is nuts! The correct solution will cost - what? - another £500-£1k? Why is your vendor not simply doing the right thing?! 

Is there room behind that wee shed where a tank could sit? And would that make any difference? 

Yes you can get fire safety tanks - the problem with that is the size, it won't go through the door. Behind the shed, is another shed, owned by a neighbour

Ah, yes, that is a narrow door!

northwest1965

Section62 said:

northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

Yes you can get fire safety tanks - the problem with that is the size, it won't go through the door. Behind the shed, is another shed, owned by a neighbour

If it isn't listed, take the roof off to lift the tank in, then put it back on?

If it's a fire protected oil tank, it ill be taller than the roof.

northwest1965

user1977 said:

Does replacement of the tank trigger a need to make the whole thing comply with current regs? Can't see an answer to that on the link provided 

https://www.gov.uk/oil-storage-regulations-and-safety/home
You must meet building regulations if you have a new or replacement oil storage container installed at your home in England, for example to fuel your cooker or central heating.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6336e58be90e0772dc9651a2/ADJ_2022.pdf

Section62

northwest1965 said:

Section62 said:

northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

Yes you can get fire safety tanks - the problem with that is the size, it won't go through the door. Behind the shed, is another shed, owned by a neighbour

If it isn't listed, take the roof off to lift the tank in, then put it back on?

If it's a fire protected oil tank, it ill be taller than the roof.

A very quick search has turned up one option - available with either 30 or 60 minutes fire protection - which is claimed to be 1220mm high - so about 4 foot.  Surely that would fit under the roof?  If not, lowering the floor a bit might be an option (assuming the roof can't be raised)?

That said, the shed is a very small enclosed space to fit an oil tank in - even if it physically fits, oil delivery drivers might have concerns about going into that space during a delivery - air (containing fuel vapour) is displaced when the tank is filled, so unless there is some kind of external vent the shed is going to get smelly at best, or downright dangerous at worst.

WIAWSNB

northwest1965 said:

The oil tank i behind the brown door. The white door is another stone outbuilding which was converted to studio (shower etc) Doesn't have any use on it for living in. It's classed as a shed

"I thought this would be my dream forever home."

If that is the case, then do some research. 

a) Is there a conforming tank that will fit in that shed? Yes or no. Get some other installers out to comment and quote.

b) If 'no', then why not remove that shed? Is there a tank that will now be allowed to be installed in that position? Yes or no.

c) Are there any alternative locations for a tank? 

For b or c, tell the vendor to not bother replacing the tank, but to deduct the amount from the asking price - you'll sort it yourself after moving in. 

northwest1965

Section62 said:

northwest1965 said:

Section62 said:

northwest1965 said:

WIAWSNB said:

Yes you can get fire safety tanks - the problem with that is the size, it won't go through the door. Behind the shed, is another shed, owned by a neighbour

If it isn't listed, take the roof off to lift the tank in, then put it back on?

If it's a fire protected oil tank, it ill be taller than the roof.

A very quick search has turned up one option - available with either 30 or 60 minutes fire protection - which is claimed to be 1220mm high - so about 4 foot.  Surely that would fit under the roof?  If not, lowering the floor a bit might be an option (assuming the roof can't be raised)?

That said, the shed is a very small enclosed space to fit an oil tank in - even if it physically fits, oil delivery drivers might have concerns about going into that space during a delivery - air (containing fuel vapour) is displaced when the tank is filled, so unless there is some kind of external vent the shed is going to get smelly at best, or downright dangerous at worst.

They have been delivering oil to it since 2011