Ecombi ssh

help2020

Hello council have put this new heating in my flat and  keeps electric off I had council come out 2 time to sort it out but still nothing .I have watched ever video but still not help

help2020

Storage heaters book 

help2020

I have watched this video a thousands of times but it not helping me https://youtu.be/erF3oAOtN9U?si=MVoDCqTznJ-vXuCN

help2020

And I top up my electric yesterday again £63 pounds at 3pm and today at 12.00 clock £57 left overs .  
All together in 2 weeks I have 110 pound 

Ayr_Rage

help2020 said:

Hello council have put this new heating in my flat and  keeps electric off I had council come out 2 time to sort it out but still nothing .I have watched ever video but still not help

What do you mean by "keeps electric off"?

What exactly are you having trouble doing?

Are you saying you have used £110 in 2 weeks?

help2020

Basically councils come out two times to set it up and I don't know what the hell they are doing but I haven't noticed and walking my electric down every day and he's taking £5.90 of me a date I have used 110 pound in two weeks yes I have just on these stored heaters only

swingaloo

These type of heaters are not cheap to run. I dont have these but my electric cost me £50 plus every 2 weeks at the moment. You will have other things besides your heaters, tv, fridge, kettle, lights etc.

Ayr_Rage

I found the video really easy to follow so you should be able to set the heating and charging schedules yourself.

Do you have any neighbours with the same system that could help?

Just don't turn the heater off at the wall or with the side switch, if you do all those settings will be lost.

If you are fully charging and then using all the stored heat I would estimate each mid range radiator would cost at least £3 a day to run, so if you have 2 or more then your usage looks to be correct.

Heating with electricity is never going to be cheap.

WiserMiser

Not exactly a user friendly controller !  Hardly anything is intuitive or self explanatory.  Particularly confusing is the way that it shows the moon symbol when you're telling it to set a lower temperature during the middle of the day.  A thermometer symbol would hsve been better.  Probably designed by a nerd who's never had to explain it to a non-techie person.  But we are where we are.

However, the biggest pitfall isn't mentioned: it has only one supply cable so you have to know the exact times when your meter switches.  The video blithely assumes that the lower rate is 0000-0700 but if the reality is 2230-0030 and 0230-0730 then you'd be charging at the very expensive day rate for the two hours between 0030 and 0230 so your bills will rocket.

IIRC the Elnurs also have top-up element (confusingly called a balancing element) which can kick in automatically during peak hours to make it act as an ordinary (=expensive) fan heater.  Best to set it not to do this.

Scot_39

WiserMiser said:

Not exactly a user friendly controller !  Hardly anything is intuitive or self explanatory.  Particularly confusing is the way that it shows the moon symbol when you're telling it to set a lower temperature during the middle of the day.  A thermometer symbol would hsve been better.  Probably designed by a nerd who's never had to explain it to a non-techie person.  But we are where we are.

However, the biggest pitfall isn't mentioned: it has only one supply cable so you have to know the exact times when your meter switches.  The video blithely assumes that the lower rate is 0000-0700 but if the reality is 2230-0030 and 0230-0730 then you'd be charging at the very expensive day rate for the two hours between 0030 and 0230 so your bills will rocket.

IIRC the Elnurs also have top-up element (confusingly called a balancing element) which can kick in automatically during peak hours to make it act as an ordinary (=expensive) fan heater.  Best to set it not to do this.

Are you sure re single cable - the SSH isnt the same as the HHR model - and it makes no reference to single wired mode in the this older SSH manual - from a vendors website (curiosly the OP might have an intermediate model - as his manual has a wireless symbol like the PRO - but the model numvers are different) 

https://www.heatershop.co.uk/Cache/Downloads/15190016-R3-ECOSSH-UK.pdf

There are timers to be set - but at least one user who has tested his HHR models iirc with automation - says they will charge on supply active - when active if do not set those initial times (or more accurate unset them as ship with a default profile - which is not how I interpreted the HHR manual re the 0000 to 0700 and 0000 0000 defaults for the two windows)

The moon / comfort day terminology comes with the association between NSH and people at home all day - who needed heat all day - which is why old lossy heaters were seen as less of an issue - but bad news for say tose out at work all day 5-6 days a week.

The video seems more straight forward than the HHR version if anything - but its a slight pain if really have to set every day individually (no copy mode ?)

PS That manual isn't based on the newer PROSSH / wireless SSH models.   As the OP's manual has a little wireless symbol. The R3 version from that site does not.

And on a quick inspection  it defintiely doesnt share the same programming module / hardware buttons as that shown in the HHR model manual on that vendors site.   But does use the sun and moon convention - so on the OP's piccies - heater has the higher day temp selected 8 hrs per day at least for that one day - 1 = Mionday according to video-including 7-9AM At a guess - early PM and early evening - as as well as 10-12pm - which might not be the most obvious timings for many folk (early to bedders if heater in say living room).

19.5C seems high for an overnight nightime / moon setpoint - if that is what the display snapshot above means - for many folk - depending on the location especially if in an "empty" room hall or living room overnight - with a temp and the moon symbol - and the above manual says 18 and 21 are the default low (moon) and comfort (sun) temps - so looks like has been changed.

If say in lving room - something much lower might be better - from about 1-2 hours before going to bed to 1-2 hours before occupied - and that depending on how long occupied.

Regarding the balancing element - the default seems more generous than on the HHRs too - as they iirc default to 5 - and people with them often suggest in past lowering to 1 - to prevent excessive use of daytime rate - but allowing charge adaption - SO I often repeat it despite not owning one)

UP08: Max. Balancing element – working period 16 hours (*)

Vs the HHR manual

P06: Max. Balance resistance – working period 5 hours

So given high temp settings - it could well be worth dropping that in stages - to force the adaptive charge period - to move from the default 80% - quicker as I understand it - on the HHR anyways.

PS 16 hrs on blancing if were ever to run that long would be a lot of peak rate energy - 

BALANCING ELEMENT OUTPUT 230/240 450/490W 600/653W 900/980W 1200/1307W

On the lowest model - c 8kWh on the smallest model, on the largest = 16 hours x 1307W = c20.9kWh - more than I'd typically use across 3 heaters - but then I'm not running at 19.5 low / xx.x sun/day/comfort for 8 hours either.

WiserMiser

Scot_39 said:

Are you sure re single cable - 

I was only commenting on what was in the video.  The opening shot shows only one cable.