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PIP - Planning a Journey - Section 11

Blancmang25
Blancmang25 Posts: 88 Forumite
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edited 19 November at 12:17PM in Benefits & tax credits
Hi,

My grandson is transferring from DLA to PIP, his mum is his appointee.

Grandson has asd, moderate to severe adhd, odd, spd.

Failed all his GCSE's and has an indepth EHCP for college.

Yesterday mum received a phone call from the HP and asked questions based around part 11, planning a journey.

Mum explained son cannot do any journeys without some one with him. He cannot read timetables(has the reading age of a 10 year old).

The HP asked questions about what he does if he hears sirens, ie: emergency vehicles and does he use a pedestrian crossing?

Explained that son will just stop if hears sirens regardless of where he is and that he thinks when he presses the button on the crossing he can just walk across, doesn't wait for the green man. 

HP also asked about his melt downs(that's what we call them) basically told HP that he spits, punches walls, doors etc when he has these. HP asked how often and daughter explained that they are very unpredictable, last time was when he sat his GCSE's.

Phone call lasted about 30 minutes.

We cannot get the assessment report yet as this was only done yesterday. 

I am worried about what will be on the report for part 11 and am wondering as to whether anyone on here has had the same/similar questions?


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  • peteuk
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    Was this the first assessment or was this a follow up to the assessment?  If follow up then the report may have been sent for audit and the HP asked to reconfirm or ask additional questions. 

    There are certain ways to ask questions however the questions will vary depending on the conditions reported.  It’s not uncommon to be asked if a claimant can make a journey alone, once youve answered no then the additional questions will then focus on proving why and what makes it that way.

    For me, asking about “melt downs” is looking at the next step of leaving the house. Eg if they were more common does it occur when leaving the house. 
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  • Blancmang25
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    edited 19 November at 4:15PM
    peteuk said:
    Was this the first assessment or was this a follow up to the assessment?  If follow up then the report may have been sent for audit and the HP asked to reconfirm or ask additional questions. 

    There are certain ways to ask questions however the questions will vary depending on the conditions reported.  It’s not uncommon to be asked if a claimant can make a journey alone, once youve answered no then the additional questions will then focus on proving why and what makes it that way.

    For me, asking about “melt downs” is looking at the next step of leaving the house. Eg if they were more common does it occur when leaving the house. 
    First assessment for PIP claim, still receiving DLA.

    We said no to planning and following a journey and explained why he cannot do this. His autism diagnosis and EHCP cover the details of him being unable to ask for extra help and needing people to help because of his learning ability. He has a bit of brain damage from birth and a scan on his brain shows the processing part has been affected.

    His "melt downs" are very random, can be anything. It's not nice as he really hurts himself in the process.

    I was more curious re: the questions which the HP asked and if anyone has had a similar experience.

  • peteuk
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    peteuk said:
    Was this the first assessment or was this a follow up to the assessment?  If follow up then the report may have been sent for audit and the HP asked to reconfirm or ask additional questions. 

    There are certain ways to ask questions however the questions will vary depending on the conditions reported.  It’s not uncommon to be asked if a claimant can make a journey alone, once youve answered no then the additional questions will then focus on proving why and what makes it that way.

    For me, asking about “melt downs” is looking at the next step of leaving the house. Eg if they were more common does it occur when leaving the house. 
    First assessment for PIP claim, still receiving DLA.

    We said no to planning and following a journey and explained why he cannot do this. His autism diagnosis and EHCP cover the details of him being unable to ask for extra help and needing people to help because of his learning ability. He has a bit of brain damage from birth and a scan on his brain shows the processing part has been affected.

    His "melt downs" are very random, can be anything. It's not nice as he really hurts himself in the process.

    I was more curious re: the questions which the HP asked and if anyone has had a similar experience.

    Sorry I phased the first question wrong, has there been a full assessment?  Eg did they go through the whole assessment, activity by activity>. Your post only mentions section 11.  As I have mentioned on occasions there is a need for further information hence the potential of a second call.  If action 11 was the only one they needed further info on they would potentially make a second call and only ask for info about that activity.

    As for your question the answer is may be, however there is no set questions and each and every assessment will ask different questions.   Your curiosity isn’t going to change anything, the assessment is complete, you’re second guessing the questions and answers.  What you need to do is wait for assessment outcome and then, and only then can you look at disputing it based on the outcome of the assessment. 
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  • Blancmang25
    Blancmang25 Posts: 88 Forumite
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    peteuk said:
    peteuk said:
    Was this the first assessment or was this a follow up to the assessment?  If follow up then the report may have been sent for audit and the HP asked to reconfirm or ask additional questions. 

    There are certain ways to ask questions however the questions will vary depending on the conditions reported.  It’s not uncommon to be asked if a claimant can make a journey alone, once youve answered no then the additional questions will then focus on proving why and what makes it that way.

    For me, asking about “melt downs” is looking at the next step of leaving the house. Eg if they were more common does it occur when leaving the house. 
    First assessment for PIP claim, still receiving DLA.

    We said no to planning and following a journey and explained why he cannot do this. His autism diagnosis and EHCP cover the details of him being unable to ask for extra help and needing people to help because of his learning ability. He has a bit of brain damage from birth and a scan on his brain shows the processing part has been affected.

    His "melt downs" are very random, can be anything. It's not nice as he really hurts himself in the process.

    I was more curious re: the questions which the HP asked and if anyone has had a similar experience.

    Sorry I phased the first question wrong, has there been a full assessment?  Eg did they go through the whole assessment, activity by activity>. Your post only mentions section 11.  As I have mentioned on occasions there is a need for further information hence the potential of a second call.  If action 11 was the only one they needed further info on they would potentially make a second call and only ask for info about that activity.

    As for your question the answer is may be, however there is no set questions and each and every assessment will ask different questions.   Your curiosity isn’t going to change anything, the assessment is complete, you’re second guessing the questions and answers.  What you need to do is wait for assessment outcome and then, and only then can you look at disputing it based on the outcome of the assessment. 
    No full assessment, only the phone call to ask about section 11.

    So I am presuming it was mainly a paper based assessment and just a phone call to clarify section 11.

    Thanks for your advice, we'll see what the report says and go from there.


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