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Loft hatch, boarding and insulation questions
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If they can assure you that the ventilation to the rafters behind this new insulation won't be compromised, then that is a perfectly ok solution. And with modern builds using a breathable membrane, that should be the case. By effectively sealing off the house from the rafters using foil-backed insulation, you will be removing the biggest source of condensation too - the house - so there should be very little actual moisture there to cause any problems.Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
I'd definitely suggest adding a window or two, not just for the beneficial light and solar gain, but to allow the habitable space to be ventilated as required - it will still get hot up there in summer!0 -
Mine is definitely not a modern build! Dated 1890 I reckon
If they can assure you that the ventilation to the rafters behind this new insulation won't be compromised, then that is a perfectly ok solution. And with modern builds using a breathable membrane, that should be the case. By effectively sealing off the house from the rafters using foil-backed insulation, you will be removing the biggest source of condensation too - the house - so there should be very little actual moisture there to cause any problems.Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
I'd definitely suggest adding a window or two, not just for the beneficial light and solar gain, but to allow the habitable space to be ventilated as required - it will still get hot up there in summer!
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Older houses often lend themselves better to loft conversions/upgrades, because the roof structure is simpler than a modern house, and easier/safer to modify to make more room.Spir4L said:
Mine is definitely not a modern build! Dated 1890 I reckon
If they can assure you that the ventilation to the rafters behind this new insulation won't be compromised, then that is a perfectly ok solution. And with modern builds using a breathable membrane, that should be the case. By effectively sealing off the house from the rafters using foil-backed insulation, you will be removing the biggest source of condensation too - the house - so there should be very little actual moisture there to cause any problems.Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
I'd definitely suggest adding a window or two, not just for the beneficial light and solar gain, but to allow the habitable space to be ventilated as required - it will still get hot up there in summer!
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Is that a typo?Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
£58 + VAT?0 -
Boohoo said:
Is that a typo?Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
£58 + VAT?
Nope - it's what I charge. I'm desperate.0 -
Boohoo said:
Is that a typo?Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
£58 + VAT?
yeah it is a typo, I meant £58k + VATWIAWSNB said:Boohoo said:
Is that a typo?Spir4L said:
Yeah I was quoted about £58 + VAT for a full conversion, including also setting up for an extra toilet and heating/radiators, about 2 years ago. It might be even more now.Albermarle said:One alternative is to have the loft space properly converted into a habitable room. So a loft conversion with a proper staircase, floor strengthened and all fire regulations covered. You could use this as a bedroom, and advertise it as a bedroom when you ever come to sell the house, if you have all the right paperwork. It is an expensive job ( £50K +) but it can add a similar value to the house, in the right house/area.
I believe there are also companies, that will do a job that goes half way. So boarded out, insulated, couple of Dormer windows, central heating radiator etc. ( £10k ??)
However no proper staircase, just a loft ladder and no properly strengthened floor.
So definitely not for use as a bedroom, or for storing very heavy items, and not safe for a children's playroom ( not an easy escape in case of fire)
Probably a grey area if an adult uses it for DIY/hobbies just in the daytime. Some people would be happy to and some maybe not . I think opinions differ. A friend did this and his teenage son used it for drum practice.
I was looking for something in between, as you say, in the grey area, to get extra storage but also a place where I could spend a few hours doing the odd diy job, that is why I got these two quotes from both pretty well reviewed companies.
They shared with me also the options of adding plasterboards on top of the rafters insulation and as well one or two windows and yes the total was coming at about £10k/11k with both, but without any central heating radiator.
I would be curious if you could share an example of a company that will do a job that goes half the way!
£58 + VAT?
Nope - it's what I charge. I'm desperate.0
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