Felt installed under Eaves felt support trays-and other issues.

anotherquestion

Hi folks,

Advice appreciated regarding these issues, I got a guy in to fix a leak, did work for me before on the roof of a outhouse which I was more than happy with.

Further to a previous thread I got him to fix a leak in home that has a tiled roof (built in 1988) got the Eaves felt support trays as well to install, The issues are,

1 He has installed the felt underneath the felt support trays rather than on top, the felt though does run well into the gutter. As the felt is on the wrong side, is this likely to cause a problem? I should mention that this back of the house does get a great deal of sunshine in summer, and probably the felt would be better protected underneath rather than on the top of the felt support tray, from that point of view.

2 Having a look today, on the the bottom row of tiles I was able to push a good number of tiles backwards and forwards, so to me doesn't seem totally secure, I am not sure if there  there were holes for nails on these tiles, if not how hard would it be to actually drill holes in the tiles to put nails in?

3 Rather than cut some of the support trays, where they join, he has simply places one over the other, this has led I believe to unsightly lift on the tiles where he has done that, and where more wind could get in during a storm, picture attached. would you agree?

Many thanks one again for any advice.

WIAWSNB

Hi AQ.
You are a layman. You have a layman's view of this job. Tsk tsk.
And yet, you realise there could be a few issues that this 'roofer' seemingly has not.
Hmm.
Ok, I'm a layman too, but I would agree that;
a) the felt should go over the support panels. Like, d'uh.
b) this doesn't have to be a UV issue as most of the felt will still be protected by the tiles. So not a prob being on top - where it should be.
c) the reason the tiles are 'loose' is likely down to them being held aloft by the panels. You can tell that the bottom row of tiles is raised up by the added angle.
d) the raised issue of (c) is compounded by the overlap of the panels - double bad.
Assuming you and I are right, then what the heck!
I think, with such concrete tiles, their weight holds them successfully in place. No idea if clips can, or should, be added to hold them down.
I'm sure a proper roofer will be along to explain how these trays should be fitted, and the tiles secured.

Swipe

Ideally the felt should be over the top of the eaves protectors but he probably didn't want it to turn into a bigger job by removing two rows of tiles or tear your felt in the process. There is no need to overlap the protectors if they sit underneath the felt. Are they all overlapping or is it just that one? If so, it sounds like he couldn't be bothered to cut it to size. The big concrete roof tiles are heavy and don't need nailing down.

Has he nailed the protectors in or just pushed them under the tiles? If the latter, you could pull the offending overlapping ones out and cut them to size and slide them back under (you may need an extra pair of hands) or remove some tiles. Probably wise to get him back if you are not confident in doing that and especially if he's nailed the protectors in. But sounds unlikely considering how he's left it.

stuart45

anotherquestion said:

Hi folks,

Advice appreciated regarding these issues, I got a guy in to fix a leak, did work for me before on the roof of a outhouse which I was more than happy with.

Further to a previous thread I got him to fix a leak in home that has a tiled roof (built in 1988) got the Eaves felt support trays as well to install, The issues are,

1 He has installed the felt underneath the felt support trays rather than on top, the felt though does run well into the gutter. As the felt is on the wrong side, is this likely to cause a problem? I should mention that this back of the house does get a great deal of sunshine in summer, and probably the felt would be better protected underneath rather than on the top of the felt support tray, from that point of view.

2 Having a look today, on the the bottom row of tiles I was able to push a good number of tiles backwards and forwards, so to me doesn't seem totally secure, I am not sure if there  there were holes for nails on these tiles, if not how hard would it be to actually drill holes in the tiles to put nails in?

3 Rather than cut some of the support trays, where they join, he has simply places one over the other, this has led I believe to unsightly lift on the tiles where he has done that, and where more wind could get in during a storm, picture attached. would you agree?

Many thanks one again for any advice.

Looks a real bodge to me. I normally go at least 3 courses back and replace battens and felt if needed, which it usually is. The felt must go on top of the protectors, so it doesn't sag, and any water running down the felt goes into the gutter. You can have a 4nch overlap when joining them. 

anotherquestion

Thanks guys,

It even gets better, the original leak (hole in felt just under lead) flashing, doesn't seem to have been properly fixed either, I thought he had re-felted to cover the hole, but no, though the leak isn't as bad as it was there is still a drip, I can see the lead flashing and tile when I look through the hole, lead is where house roof meets the dormer at back.

Try to get it done cheaply and then get it done again, I think this job will end up costing a few hundred more on the actual final price.

He does have to come back for some tools though so will have a word.