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Advice please regarding investment bond 5% rule - after a capital reduction.

I invested £300,000 in a bond many years ago. I have taken the full 5% per annum cumulatively, but in the early years I withdrew half the capital to help build a house. Is the 5% now calculated on the original £300k or the residual £150k? My IFA says the latter but everything I read on line suggests the former but I cannot find an exact FAQ for this scenario.

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  • HappyHarry
    HappyHarry Posts: 1,896 Forumite
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    The answer will depend on whether you surrendered half of the number of  segments or if you withdrew half of each segment.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser. Any comments I make here are intended for information / discussion only. Nothing I post here should be construed as advice. If you are looking for individual financial advice, please contact a local Independent Financial Adviser.
  • The answer will depend on whether you surrendered half of the number of  segments or if you withdrew half of each segment.
    Thanks - which route would have preserved the advantageous 5% of 300k please?
  • HappyHarry
    HappyHarry Posts: 1,896 Forumite
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    When an investment bond is created, it is split into a number of identical segments. In this case, let us assume you bought 100 segments of £3,000 each.

    When you sold £150,000 you either:
    (i) Sold 50 segments of £3,000, leaving you with 50 segments from which you can still draw your 5% per year initial capital. This initial capital would now, of course, be £150,000 as you have sold half of the original segments.
    (ii) Sold £1,500 of each segment. This would leave you with all 100 segments, from which you may still be able to draw your 5% per year initial capital.

    (i) above is more likely to have happened, as this would have likely minimized tax at the time you took the £150,000. However you would now only have half your original segments left.
     
    (ii) above would have preserved the potential future 5% withdrawals from all the original segments, but at the cost of a potentially significant income tax liability when the £150,000 was taken.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser. Any comments I make here are intended for information / discussion only. Nothing I post here should be construed as advice. If you are looking for individual financial advice, please contact a local Independent Financial Adviser.
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