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Administrator having sibling trouble

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  • Spendless
    Spendless Posts: 25,080 Forumite
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    Throwing in something else, are you 100% sure these messages are coming from your neice  and not some scammer  who has somehow
     got hold of some of your brother's details because why
    Does neice believe there's a mercedes?
    Who  is the female in 
    'He wouldnt leave it to some female'

    If it is genuine then others have answered you. You are the administrator of the estate (not executor as no will was left). The rules of intestecy will apply. The pension company has confirmed that there is no qualifying relative to pay out to. 

  • Flugelhorn
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    Spendless said:
    Throwing in something else, are you 100% sure these messages are coming from your neice  and not some scammer  who has somehow
     got hold of some of your brother's details because why
    Does neice believe there's a mercedes?
    Who  is the female in 
    'He wouldnt leave it to some female'


    definitely worth checking - intrigued to know who the niece thinks it has been left to?
  • Bazza_a
    Bazza_a Posts: 12 Forumite
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    yes it's definitely my niece, the other female is a good friend of my brother's who lives in St Petersburg, there is a car but its not a Mercedes, really shows she hasn't got a clue about anything to do with my brother, as I mentioned before they knew he had terminal cancer (mesothelioma) and couldn't be bothered phoning him or anything, my sister only rang when she wanted money, he died on 29/12 it was his birthday on 21/12 and of course xmas on 25/12, not a word from any of them
  • Spendless
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    Still doesnt make any sense because youve said that your brother died without a will, so your neice is correct when she said 'it would go to the next in line (intestecy). So why is another woman being mentioned at all?

    Are you sure youve got the correct information, that theres definately no will. People on here will help but they do need the full story in order to do so. 
  • Bazza_a
    Bazza_a Posts: 12 Forumite
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    my niece is talking about my brothers pension as explained earlier, there is no will, 
  • RAS
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    Plainly they don't understand that people can nominate anyone they wish to receive their pension, although it remains the provider's final decision.

    And only relevant if the scheme allows something to be left to those other than the nominee. Have you sent your sister the details of the provider and told her to check it herself. You shouldn't be piggy in the middle with this.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Bazza_a
    Bazza_a Posts: 12 Forumite
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    Hi Ras
    I sent her this (copied from email from UKPN)  although with the full header and contact details

    "I can confirm that there are no further benefits payable. Under the rules of the scheme, if Kevin had been married or in a civil partnership at the time of his death there would have been a spouse's pension payable, or if he had passed away within 5years of first drawing there would have been a lump sum payable for the balance of 5 years pension instalments,but as neither applies the pension ceases"
  • I wouldn't deal with the daughter at all.  Be polite with sister and once everything has been paid and only then split what is left (remember any admin costs even down to stamps if need be).

  • NCC1701-A
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    Bazza_a said:
    yes it's definitely my niece, the other female is a good friend of my brother's who lives in St Petersburg, there is a car but its not a Mercedes, really shows she hasn't got a clue about anything to do with my brother, as I mentioned before they knew he had terminal cancer (mesothelioma) and couldn't be bothered phoning him or anything, my sister only rang when she wanted money, he died on 29/12 it was his birthday on 21/12 and of course xmas on 25/12, not a word from any of them
    Did you brother reside & die in UK, were any of his assets such as his pension held outside UK?
  • Marcon
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    RAS said:
    Plainly they don't understand that people can nominate anyone they wish to receive their pension, although it remains the provider's final decision.


    No. It's a defined benefit pension, not a defined contribution scheme. Members can't just nominate 'anyone they wish' to receive a pension on their death. Survivors pensions will be paid in line with the rules of the scheme. If someone is unmarried at the time of their death there may be a discretion for the trustees to agree to a pension to be paid to an unmarried partner (and the relationship normally has to be proven), but not just 'anyone they wish'.


    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
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