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OBservices Parking and DCB LEGAL court claim

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,982 Forumite
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    You've said you don't know who was driving yet you ended it with "I didn't see any signs".

    Remove all this from your first draft:

    No PCN was "issued on 21/04/2022" (the date of the alleged visit).

    Defendant was the registered keeper, however multiple persons drive the vehicle and the Defendant does not know who was driving the vehicle on this particular date four years ago, as this car park has been used many times while shopping in the local area. Recalling the circumstance of this claim is difficult due to the passage of time, but I can inform the court that I saw no signs because they were sparsely placed. 

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  • Le_Kirk
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    Defences are written in the third person, so no "I", "me" or "my" but "the defendant"

  • happidazi
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    Couple of tweeks in paragraph 2 and 3

    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief. Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper, however multiple persons drive the vehicle and the Defendant does not know who was driving the vehicle on this particular date four years ago, as this car park has been used many times while shopping in the local area. Recalling the circumstance of this claim is difficult due to the passage of time.

    3. Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant does not accept that a contravention occurred on 05/06/2024, as alleged. Whilst the Defendant was the registered keeper and driver, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms. The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. The defendant has not received any correspondence of the overstayed the maximum time allowed with evidence. The first correspondence received from the Claimant was a Letter of Notice of Debt Recovery on the 24th September 2025.

  • 1505grandad
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    " Whilst the Defendant was the registered keeper and driver, …."

    Contradicts what is stated in para 2!!

    "The Defendant does not accept that a contravention occurred on 05/06/2024, …."

    Is the date correct?

  • happidazi
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    Amended, thank you 1505grandad

    3. Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant does not accept that a contravention occurred on 21/04/2022, as alleged. Whilst the Defendant was the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms. The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. The defendant has not received any correspondence of the overstayed the maximum time allowed with evidence. The first correspondence received from the Claimant was a Letter of Notice of Debt Recovery on the 24th September 2025.

  • Coupon-mad
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    Yep that'll do. 🙂

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  • happidazi
    happidazi Posts: 25 Forumite
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    Brillant, I got there in the end. Thank you to everyone for your help so far

  • happidazi
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    Update

    I received this letter today, I assuming OBService Parking will try to make contact for mediation, as per other threads.

  • Gr1pr
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    No, the Mediation Service will do that ( Observices are not actively involved with the case. )

    Keep following the 8 steps

  • happidazi
    happidazi Posts: 25 Forumite
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    Morning

    **update**

    I received the N180 in the post a couple of weeks ago, I have downloaded the Directions Questionnaire and emailed it this morning, needed to be done by the 11th May 26.

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