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CCJ sent to my old address

I had left my previous address in march 2024. Due to not having a permanent Address, i had updated my License in Aug 2024 and had sent off the paperwork for my V5 same time (no proof of this) i didnt receive anything from this and didnt think anything of it. When the time came to tax my vehicle, i used a picture of my logbook in NOV 2024. Fast forward to now i look at my credit report and see a CCJ to my old address. I go over there and find out court documents that i never received. Now i can file to have it canceled but would the judge be inclined to as it was my failure to make ensure the address is updated and would i be wasting my money for the court fee.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,165 Forumite
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    edited 20 October at 10:29AM
    Don't worry. You have pretty much 100% chance of the CCJ being set aside PLUS your court application fee paid by the Claimant. They are more at fault.

    VCS v Carr

    Search the forum for the above and read about the case that you will be relying on. Then copy a recent CCJ set aside Witness statement & draft order.
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  • ChirpyChicken
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    Are you looking for help removing the CCJ? 
    Interesting first post.
  • ChirpyChicken
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    edited 20 October at 3:44PM
    Dear sa1978,
    This is slightly different as the case of VCS v Carr relates to "Service of the Claim Form" rather than the "Legal Entitlement to Park" which was in fact never dealt with by the Court of Appeal. Mr Carr informed the claimant by telephone that he was no longer at his former marital address due to divorce. However, the claim was still served at his former marital address despite his telephone communication to the claimant explaining he was no longer living there. The Court of Appeal found that his communication by telephone provided the claimant with sufficient information to suggest "he was not at the address they held on file" and therefore the claimant should have "made further enquiries to establish where he did reside", which they did not and served the claim to his former marital address in any event, incorrectly. Parking Companies get the registered keepers details from the DVLA at the time of the Parking Offence at a cost of £2.50 per request (this generates about £30M a year for the DVLA). The Parking Companies only do this once and there is no legal obligation on them to check the DVLA database a second time prior to claim. So you did update your Driving Licence and V5 but the Parking Company would not have known this. You do have Legal Grounds to Set the Judgment Aside and remove it from the public register, but this by itself IS NOT a defence to the claim. A defence could be that "I had permission to park" or "I bought a ticket which was displayed" or "I had a permit to park which was displayed" etc. My advice would be to take advice specifically about your case but based on what you have written the case of VCS v Carr does not apply to your case. If you make an Application to Court that is legally incorrect there is every chance that you could lose and the court may ask you to cover the claimants costs. I say this only because we help people like you and if you make an N244 Application and pay the £313 Court Fee it will take at least 4 months for you to get a Court Hearing which you would have to attend in person and make your case to the Judge when the Judge may very well inform you he cannot set aside the Judgment based on your Application. We try and avoid this by mediating with the claimants to agree a Consent Order which comes at a lower court fee £123 and is more likely to successfully remove the Judgment as both parties have agreed to that outcome. Once again take specialist advice before you do anything.
    You do NOT need to use the above company with their very high fees.
    They are so expensive when you can deal with this for low cost here .
    Forget the consent angle. That really is not needed and is no quicker

  • ChirpyChicken
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    edited 20 October at 4:40PM
    Dear Chirpy Chicken,

    Sadly you are incorrect. The court system is backlogged with such defective Applications that are made without merit, my information was provided free of charge. What I said was correct and based on our experience of dealing with many thousands of Parking Ticket CCJ's. The reality is that none of us here have enough information from the original question to give precise legal advice. However as explained the circumstances presented in the original question to the forum are NOT the same as the case of VCS v Carr and any Application made on that basis would fail. I did not come here to argue but perhaps give some legal clarity as we have had thousands of clients that have taken an action based on reading some "advice" on a "forum" which has turned out to be completely incorrect and created unrecoverable costs and avoidable delays for the person straddled with the CCJ. My advice was simply take specialist advice before doing anything and do not rely on a forum. 
    No i am sorry you did not come here with free of charge advice.  You came here with a business username 
    People should not be wasting their money coming to a firm such as yourselves.  Your fees are eye watering.

    And sorry my advice is not incorrect.  It is entirely correct.
    this forum gives excellent advice.  This forum helps many people get claims set aside and it doesn't need people coming to advertise which is clearly the case

    You claim to be a Community Interest Company 
    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14104820
    I very much doubt this is the case given the fees charged amongst other things



  • Coupon-mad
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    "based on what you have written the case of VCS v Carr does not apply to your case. If you make an Application to Court that is legally incorrect there is every chance that you could lose"

    That's totally untrue. Consent is not needed. It looks like you are touting for business.

    @ChirpyChicken is correct and I already advised this OP that from what they have written they have near enough 100% chance of CCJ set aside and VCS v Carr certainly applies (and it covered more than you have stated).
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  • Castle
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    No i am sorry you did not come here with free of charge advice.  You came here with a business username 
    People should not be wasting their money coming to a firm such as yourselves.  Your fees are eye watering.

    And sorry my advice is not incorrect.  It is entirely correct.
    this forum gives excellent advice.  This forum helps many people get claims set aside and it doesn't need people coming to advertise which is clearly the case

    You claim to be a Community Interest Company 
    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14104820
    I very much doubt this is the case given the fees charged amongst other things



    You may want to click on the "Filing history" because the company appointed a Liquidator in August 2025 and is in the process of being "wound up".
  • ChirpyChicken
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    edited 20 October at 7:36PM
    Castle said:

    No i am sorry you did not come here with free of charge advice.  You came here with a business username 
    People should not be wasting their money coming to a firm such as yourselves.  Your fees are eye watering.

    And sorry my advice is not incorrect.  It is entirely correct.
    this forum gives excellent advice.  This forum helps many people get claims set aside and it doesn't need people coming to advertise which is clearly the case

    You claim to be a Community Interest Company 
    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14104820
    I very much doubt this is the case given the fees charged amongst other things



    You may want to click on the "Filing history" because the company appointed a Liquidator in August 2025 and is in the process of being "wound up".
    Well there are others linked . These two

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16058929

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/15715914

    Why would they class themselves as a community interest company.. can anyone explain this?

    I know someone who worked there some time ago. High work loads high fees. Staff watched like hawks. Not what I thought a CIC would be....

  • ChirpyChicken
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    edited 22 October at 8:29AM
    Mr_CCJ said:
    Please can you explain what part of VCS V Carr applies to this case with the limited information available?
    Do we really need all these new users from Remove CCJ Services Ltd (and its linked companies (as posted above) as your long business touting post was removed

    Come on i am sure you are better then this.

    Ps why dont you clearly state who your company is/ask MSE to be an official company posting  (I did not come down in the last shower)
  • ChirpyChicken
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    edited 23 October at 8:33AM
    Mr_CCJ said:
    Why be so aggressive/defensive? I have asked a question is that not allowed? I am here to learn? 
    Not Aggressive at all and i am sorry you feel that way.
    However you are not here to learn i am afraid. You are involved (i wont say directly your involvement on here) with the firms linked above therefore you are not here to learn (as one of your previous posts (now deleted) was touting for business)  That is disingenuous and unhelpful

    It would be much more useful if you came out and stated your involvement with the above companies then you come here with clean hands. Your business knowledge within this field would then be welcomed.  Although i fundamentally disagree with what you charge and how you go about things. 
    We have a parking employee poster on this board.  Whilst people may not agree with what he says at least he doesn't hide the fact what he does and opposing views make for welcome debate
  • Nellymoser
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    edited 23 October at 10:54AM
    Of course Mr_CCJ you can ask a question but you may not get the answer you want. 
    You seem to have gone about this in a very strange way if as you claim your intention was to learn from the forum. Reading other recent relevant threads and posts is an excellent way to learn and it's often recommended.

    I've only been active on this forum for few years and this is the first time I've seen 2 x Newbies reply like this to a Newbie's opening post (a post which in itself I wasn't fully convinced by). 

    As ChirpyChicken says it would be much more useful if you'd been upfront about your involvement.
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