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Level 3 Survey - Help with responses from Vendor
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You did the right thing getting the report as otherwise you'd be in the wrong if there was a major issue when you hadn't bothered to have anyone look at the place. Surveyors reports are rather a swindle, but that's the name of the property game unfortunately!
I'm not an expert at all but from my experience I agree with others that there's nothing too alarming there, all homes have their own little ways and issues and that's just part of being a property owner. If you're happy with the place in general then pay to get a specialist in to check or sort the electrics and vermin risks
All surveyors reports are a combination of the most tiresome jobsworths and the most tedious drama queens, use the report to help you trust your instinct about if anything is awry, don't let it give you worries that don't actually exist in lived reality.
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Earth bonding of the water has been in place for many years and the vendor’s response to this question is simply incorrect. In this case it is more than just evolution of the regs.jonnydeppiwish! said:
But that’s at current regs - it’s best practice but doesn’t mean it’s unsafe now. New builds will need work a year after being signed off due to the continued changes in Regsanselld said:I am with the vendor with the exception of 16. Earth bonding of the electrical supply is required regardless of the incoming supply material. This is to ensure that the internal water system cannot become live in the event of an electrical fault. Given that is the case there is presumably no current EICR in place so you may wish to instruct an electrician to inspect. If earth bonding is the only thing missing it will not be expensive.1 -
Really? Why would you earth a plastic pipe?anselld said:
Earth bonding of the water has been in place for many years and the vendor’s response to this question is simply incorrect. In this case it is more than just evolution of the regs.jonnydeppiwish! said:
But that’s at current regs - it’s best practice but doesn’t mean it’s unsafe now. New builds will need work a year after being signed off due to the continued changes in Regsanselld said:I am with the vendor with the exception of 16. Earth bonding of the electrical supply is required regardless of the incoming supply material. This is to ensure that the internal water system cannot become live in the event of an electrical fault. Given that is the case there is presumably no current EICR in place so you may wish to instruct an electrician to inspect. If earth bonding is the only thing missing it will not be expensive.2006 LBM £28,000+ in debt.
2021 mortgage and debt free, working part time and living the dream1 -
As I said previously, it is the house system which is earthed, not the incoming pipe. The incoming pipe normally comes to a stopc*ck and the system is then earthed shortly downstream from there. The incoming pipe material is irrelevant.jonnydeppiwish! said:
Really? Why would you earth a plastic pipe?anselld said:
Earth bonding of the water has been in place for many years and the vendor’s response to this question is simply incorrect. In this case it is more than just evolution of the regs.jonnydeppiwish! said:
But that’s at current regs - it’s best practice but doesn’t mean it’s unsafe now. New builds will need work a year after being signed off due to the continued changes in Regsanselld said:I am with the vendor with the exception of 16. Earth bonding of the electrical supply is required regardless of the incoming supply material. This is to ensure that the internal water system cannot become live in the event of an electrical fault. Given that is the case there is presumably no current EICR in place so you may wish to instruct an electrician to inspect. If earth bonding is the only thing missing it will not be expensive.
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The vendors response is correct- no earth bonding to the plastic pipe, but present where required - ie the metal workanselld said:
Earth bonding of the water has been in place for many years and the vendor’s response to this question is simply incorrect. In this case it is more than just evolution of the regs.jonnydeppiwish! said:
But that’s at current regs - it’s best practice but doesn’t mean it’s unsafe now. New builds will need work a year after being signed off due to the continued changes in Regsanselld said:I am with the vendor with the exception of 16. Earth bonding of the electrical supply is required regardless of the incoming supply material. This is to ensure that the internal water system cannot become live in the event of an electrical fault. Given that is the case there is presumably no current EICR in place so you may wish to instruct an electrician to inspect. If earth bonding is the only thing missing it will not be expensive.
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OP- The survey has done two things for you.
Firstly it has reassured you that there are no major faults- cracking, structural walls compromised- roof falling apart etc.
Secondly - You have a list of some jobs that might need looking at someday.1 -
Thanks for all your responses. It’s a learning process as this is my first experience of Level 3 Survey . Most grateful1
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An interesting thread on the current system that puts the onus on the prospective buyer ( at their own cost) to establish the condition of the home with inconclusive outcomes.
Contrast this with the Scottish system where seller supplies the report (at their cost ) for all prospective buyers.
Per thread below English parliament opening consultation to finally introduce the same system here (took them long enough!).
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81680897#Comment_81680897
For our OP, such seller supplied report might not leave him/her any wiser, but at least they have not had to outlay the intial cost. That said, for buyers generally interested in a number of properties, such reports maybe helpful in weeding out the total non starters.
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11mee said:
That’s it £800 down the drain . I thought I was doling the right thing.Chief_of_Staffy said:This is exactly why I'd never pay for a RICS survey. There's nothing there that I'd look twice at. What a waste of money.
I wouldn't say it's a waste of money.
You paid a surveyor to check for problems with the house, and in simple terms, the the surveyor is saying they found no significant problems. (I'd have thought you should be pleased. Would you have been happier if they had found some significant problems?)
I guess it's a bit like saying paying for buildings insurance is a waste of money - if you never have to make a claim.
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A Homr Information Report report was introduced in England in 2004 Housing Act but not fully operating until 2009.poseidon1 said:An interesting thread on the current system that puts the onus on the prospective buyer ( at their own cost) to establish the condition of the home with inconclusive outcomes.
Contrast this with the Scottish system where seller supplies the report (at their cost ) for all prospective buyers.
Per thread below English parliament opening consultation to finally introduce the same system here (took them long enough!).
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81680897#Comment_81680897
For our OP, such seller supplied report might not leave him/her any wiser, but at least they have not had to outlay the intial cost. That said, for buyers generally interested in a number of properties, such reports maybe helpful in weeding out the total non starters.
It was suspended was suspended in 2012
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/RP10-69/RP10-69.pdf0
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