We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Booking. com Holiday accomodation and host issues with a twist

My situation is as follows My Holiday Accomodation  in Portugal  was booked via  Booking.com in good faith and paid for in advance, arrangements were made for a late arrival between 2359 - 0100. This was  due to the flight arrival  time and also factoring in the  collection of hire car and then driving the  journey to the accomodation.  Due to problems regarding car hire collection which were beyond my control arrival at the accomodation was one hour behind schedule. 
During the car  journey to the accomodation my wife received an aggressive phone call from the owner which  was both abrupt and rude, demanding to know why we had not arrived,   despite telling him we had problems  he   challeged the time it took to get from the airport to his accomodation. This caused some distress and was  upsefting for my wife.  Upon arrival I  phoned him to say we were outside. His reponse was, you are too late i am now in my bed. i said to him in that case we we have no option but to sleep outside in  our car.  A  few minutes later he appeared at the secure gate  and opened it.   He went into  a loud  unreasonable rant regarding our late arrival.   My wife and i were in disbelief,  i told him he was  a very rude and arrogant man. My wife added if this is the way you speak to guests you are in the wrong business  He gave us the keys and just walked off . Saying  he would take this further and would be speaking to booking.com in  in the mornning . After a few hours sleep early in the morrning  i received a email from my card provider  saying our accomodation had been refunded and another message  from booking.com re cancellation  I spent the next two hours trying desperately  to find alternative accomodation.  My wife was in floods of tears and re packed our clothes . This was a very bad start to our holiday and totally unacceptable.  A short while later after we had packed the owner  came to our door, my wife was visibly upset  he was now  calmer  and offered us breakfast. We continued our stay but  these events spolied our holiday,  in truth if it was possible we would have just returned home that day.  Further  during our stay we politely repeatedly highlighted the probem that there was no hot water in the accomodation for washing and showering. The owner explained these were known issues with  the plumbing and the  the supply of hot water. His solution was just keep running the tap. After running the tap for ten minutes there was still no hot water the issue was not resolved. 

The position one  month after returning home, is that  having  now been refunded by the accomodation cost in full, which was never discussed at the time   The owner is now seeking his full  payment,  I firmly believe his cancellation of our booking was made in  a burst  of  temper and as a  means to intimidate us,  when we were in a vulnerable situation. It was only when he saw the distress he had caused  my wife , that eventually softened his position. This was for us  a very unpleasant situation.  I do not feel that the service we initially paid for came upto our reasonable expectations. It is for these reasons i wish to make a reduced payment for the accommodation and level of service received.  Normally these issues involve a request for a refund from the customer, my situation is the reverse a belated request for payment for a service that did not me our expectations. Does anyone have advise on the legal position i find myself in.    

 
 

Comments

  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 37,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 9 October at 6:46PM
    From a legal point of view, you received a service and should pay for it, but if there was a breach of contract in terms of facilities not being available then it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of discount for lack of hot water, although if you continued to stay there without it then that weakens your position.  The fact that there was a bit of a bust-up on arrival might have been awkward but personally it wouldn't seem like justification for any price reduction, so were there any other deficiencies that were flagged to the owner (or agent) during your stay?
  • Your response  appears measured and reasonable, my only position of strength at the moment is that i owe them money and i am not trying to get a refund for money they have in their account .  Ultimately i accept i may have to pay the full amount or be black listed by Booking.com or more seriously face some sort of threat of legal action, for not paying for the service by  with holding payment. so i feel this is the the time to try and negotiate a  reduced payment. With that in mind I  have offered them an amount i feel is proportionate to the service provided. whether that is false hope i don't know  but its worth a go. Thanks for your response and advice . Any other comments welcome.  
  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 37,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Your response  appears measured and reasonable, my only position of strength at the moment is that i owe them money and i am not trying to get a refund for money they have in their account .  Ultimately i accept i may have to pay the full amount or be black listed by Booking.com or more seriously face some sort of threat of legal action, for not paying for the service by  with holding payment. so i feel this is the the time to try and negotiate a  reduced payment. With that in mind I  have offered them an amount i feel is proportionate to the service provided. whether that is false hope i don't know  but its worth a go. Thanks for your response and advice . Any other comments welcome.  
    Yes, it's better to be in the position of holding the money rather than being the one chasing it, and as you say now is the (last) time if you're going to try to negotiate something - what percentage have you offered?
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.