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Private fine in Scotland but lease car reg in England

stace_face38
Posts: 4 Newbie

Hi,
Recently received notice of a parking charge from a private firm (Smart Parking Ltd). Car is leased from Leasys who are based in England and are the registered keepers, however I am the leasee and live in Scotland. The email received from leasys to notify me of the PCN isnt very clear on whether they have charged me and paid Smart parking, but they do state they have passed them my details to them for liability -
"We have given your details to the relevant authority transferring liability of this offence to you. The authority will now contact you directly........should you be successful in your appeal and the authority issues us with a refund, we will credit the penalty charge amount back to you"
For now I have emailed leasys telling them that they should not have paid this on my behalf and will do a charge back if they have and that this 'fine' is non enforceable in Scotland but im not 💯 if this is correct as they are the registered keepers.
Can someone advise if I need to pay this? Was literally there for 20min to pick up my boyfriend from playing pool and forgot to get him to put my reg into the machine in the pool hall 🙄 TIA!
Recently received notice of a parking charge from a private firm (Smart Parking Ltd). Car is leased from Leasys who are based in England and are the registered keepers, however I am the leasee and live in Scotland. The email received from leasys to notify me of the PCN isnt very clear on whether they have charged me and paid Smart parking, but they do state they have passed them my details to them for liability -
"We have given your details to the relevant authority transferring liability of this offence to you. The authority will now contact you directly........should you be successful in your appeal and the authority issues us with a refund, we will credit the penalty charge amount back to you"
For now I have emailed leasys telling them that they should not have paid this on my behalf and will do a charge back if they have and that this 'fine' is non enforceable in Scotland but im not 💯 if this is correct as they are the registered keepers.
Can someone advise if I need to pay this? Was literally there for 20min to pick up my boyfriend from playing pool and forgot to get him to put my reg into the machine in the pool hall 🙄 TIA!
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For now I have emailed leasys telling them that they should not have paid this on my behalf and will do a charge back if they have and that this 'fine' is non enforceable in Scotland but im not 💯 if this is correct as they are the registered keepers.Right course of action. There is no keeper liability in Scotland (at the moment), so the lease company could never have been held liable for the PCN.Once your position on whether they have paid Smart is clearer, please come back to let us know.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street3 -
Umkomaas said:For now I have emailed leasys telling them that they should not have paid this on my behalf and will do a charge back if they have and that this 'fine' is non enforceable in Scotland but im not 💯 if this is correct as they are the registered keepers.Right course of action. There is no keeper liability in Scotland (at the moment), so the lease company could never have been held liable for the PCN.Once your position on whether they have paid Smart is clearer, please come back to let us know.0
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stace_face38 said:
Can someone advise if I need to pay this? Was literally there for 20min to pick up my boyfriend from playing pool and forgot to get him to put my reg into the machine in the pool hall 🙄 TIA!3 -
Castle said:stace_face38 said:
Can someone advise if I need to pay this? Was literally there for 20min to pick up my boyfriend from playing pool and forgot to get him to put my reg into the machine in the pool hall 🙄 TIA!1 -
The lease firm had no liability or business in this invoice (ONLY the driver does) and if they paid it that's their problem.
We suspect your vehicle lease t&cs only lets them pay fines and penalties from authorities? This isn't one, and there's no keeper liability at all for parking events on private land in Scotland.
DO NOT BE MISLED.
I WOULD NOT DO THIS BY PHONE.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad said:The lease firm had no liability or business in this invoice (ONLY the driver does) and if they paid it that's their problem.
We suspect your vehicle lease t&cs only lets them pay fines and penalties from authorities? This isn't one, and there's no keeper liability at all for parking events on private land in Scotland.
DO NOT BE MISLED.
I WOULD NOT DO THIS BY PHONE.0
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