Napier Parking fine - do they have to evidence I was parked in wrong area?

Autumnbluebird62

New forumite here.  I received a fine from Napier parking with photos of my vehicle entering and exiting the car park after 15 minutes.  However its a shared car park with Sainsbury's, and the entrance/exit serves both free and paid for areas.  I appealed and asked for evidence that I parked in the paid area and they haven't provided it - they say their internal appeal process is now closed.  Am I entitled to see a photo of my vehicle parked in their area?  I believe I parked in a Sainsbury's parking space.  Should I pursue this?

James_Poisson

You have not received a "fine" it's just an invoice for breach of contract, but you are dealing with scammers after money, no appeal at this stage would work they are an unregulated profit centre.

If it has images of going in and out that will be ANPR, what does the actual PCN give for the charge?

Have you complained to the land owner (plan A)

If this is a free and a paid for car park, there has to be a further mechanism you have not complied with surely?

Autumnbluebird62

Not sure what you mean about what does the actual PCN give for the charge? It says Parking Charge, Notice to Keeper, Made under schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.  They've sent me photos of the ticket machines and a sign that says Sainsburys to the left and Pay & Display to the right.  I just think I was parked in Sainsburys!  If they can send photos of the car moving surely they can send one of where it was parked.  Running out of time to pay the reduced rate; I haven't complained the the landowner, should have, maybe too late now.

Car1980

I don't think you understand. You have an invoice. They are under no obligation to send you any evidence. It's up to you whether you are daft enough to pay, or whether you tell them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

If they made a county court claim, then they would have to supply evidence and the onus would be on them to prove everything. That's a lot of effort for not much return, so virtually every court claim is discontinued *just* before they have to submit any evidence. 

Coupon-mad

Autumnbluebird62 said:

New forumite here.  I received a fine from Napier parking with photos of my vehicle entering and exiting the car park after 15 minutes.

However its a shared car park with Sainsbury's, and the entrance/exit serves both free and paid for areas.

I appealed and asked for evidence that I parked in the paid area and they haven't provided it - they say their internal appeal process is now closed. 

Am I entitled to see a photo of my vehicle parked in their area?  I believe I parked in a Sainsbury's parking space.  Should I pursue this?

Same as that thread the other week with photographs of the inadequate bollard dividers. Same place. Search the forum for

Napier Sainsburys

...and always change the results to NEWEST.

Obviously you aren't paying this but you know that, if you've read the MSE Guide linked at the top of every page.

Le_Kirk

Autumnbluebird62 said:

Not sure what you mean about what does the actual PCN give for the charge?

Probably meant to say: -
what reason does the actual PCN give for the charge.