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Top floor bedroom ceiling water drip drip. No pipes in loft.

Woke up to a drip drip of water from upstairs bedroom ceiling inside cupboard. The cupboard though is irrelevant. The first pic is what i have read is a wooden joist. It's damp. The joist continues into the cupboard where drip is. It was raining. But despite it raining heavy showers through today it stopped leaking. Am gaining a bit of courage to crawl right up to it in the loft. Then i can tell any roofer or builder where the leak came from.






Located wooden joist in loft above. It's that one going down on left. Couldn't see any leak above joist , but was too scary to go to investigate completely in that tight space not knowing .Just climbing up there and crawling on boards was new to me. Will try again when more confident. That's a bucket to collect drips in cupboard. Pics not in order. But any ideas about anything at all. I Am just hoping that it will go away , and know that's not what's likely. But I had a leak two years ago above window and put it down to a very strong wind blowing water in from an unusual direction and it hasn't come back.


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  • Mr.Generous
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    Look at the roof from the outside.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • jvjack
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    Would if i could. Would need very big ladder to do it.


  • Boohoo
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    jvjack said:
    Would if i could. Would need very big ladder to do it.


    I don't think Mr.G was expecting you to get up on the roof.

    Use binoculars or mobile to take photos or the roof and then you can see if there are any issues with the roof like missing/broken tiles or damaged flashing.
  • WIAWSNB
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    jvjack said:
    Woke up to a drip drip of water from upstairs bedroom ceiling inside cupboard. The cupboard though is irrelevant. The first pic is what i have read is a wooden joist. It's damp. The joist continues into the cupboard where drip is. It was raining. But despite it raining heavy showers through today it stopped leaking. Am gaining a bit of courage to crawl right up to it in the loft. Then i can tell any roofer or builder where the leak came from.






    Located wooden joist in loft above. It's that one going down on left. Couldn't see any leak above joist , but was too scary to go to investigate completely in that tight space not knowing .Just climbing up there and crawling on boards was new to me. Will try again when more confident. That's a bucket to collect drips in cupboard. Pics not in order. But any ideas about anything at all. I Am just hoping that it will go away , and know that's not what's likely. But I had a leak two years ago above window and put it down to a very strong wind blowing water in from an unusual direction and it hasn't come back.


    Where on that rafter can you see the water coming down?
    If you tack a strip of cloth to it, and dangle it into a basin or bucket, you should be able to catch the leak at that point, and hopefully prevent further damage until itis sorted.
    It is possible that a rare combo of wind direction and rain gets water through where is doesn't otherwise, but it's still clearly wrong, and you do need a roofer out.
    They should hopefully be able to trace the starting point inside the lift, and relate that to the outside, and hopefully pinpoint the cause.
    Please keep us posted.
  • jvjack
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    Thanks all. Armed with torch and cloth etc for later on. It's whether i can get nerve to reach the end of that joist and remove insulation to see. Is best to have company with me to get that far so will light up all around and hold camera/video at arms length to maybe locate water stains.
    I zoomed in with camera to look at roof outside but the roof is at an angle so is not very clear and has moss or some whiteish matter on it.
    Despite all the rain since and this morning no more drips , but yes roofer rather than builder , that makes sense to me now. 
  • What your picture shows is the area where two different angled sections of the roof meet.  It’s called a valley.

    It's not uncommon for valleys to fill with moss, leaves etc and that can cause leaks as the rain backs up and leaks in behind the tiles or slates.

    A roofer is definitely the trade you need 
  • Swipe
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    Definitely identify the source of the leak yourself if you can before calling the roofer.
  • Eldi_Dos
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    jvjack said:
    Would if i could. Would need very big ladder to do it.


    With a long enough selfie stick you should be able to get some photos from upstairs windows.

    As others have said it would be good to have some information to go on when calling out help to repair problem.
  • jvjack
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    Mr.Generous thanks. Looking back i flippantly posted about the big ladder.
    Good thoughts all. 
    Never thought of the selfie sticks but that might be it. Just checked from bedroom window and think I'd need one about 5 /6 feet to do the roof from window and could use it to do the loft and will look at them.
    Everything where it was dripping from is bone dry despite heavy downpours. Maybe its the moss and leaves bjorn mentions.
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